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#26364	11/06/2015 3:55:50 am
Brewnoe Joined: 03/25/2014 Posts: 829 Fall River Naughty Dawgs III.3	Just curious if anyone wants to share their pain and/or comments to guys that have left Walt Shelton - you still dosn't look like anything much, but you've done a number on us h2h Yong Ahn - nice proof of concept that an older player can still learn something in AAA after getting the "not much room" tag ... if i'd stuck him at 2b instead of 3b, he would have had had more room Clyde - a couple errors at 1B almost cost me the trophy this season Chad - nice season across those 2 teams ... if our first great draft pick wasn't a SS you'd still be here Sergio Nunez - glad you got a chance to play full time again

#26366	11/06/2015 5:50:27 am
Seca Joined: 05/05/2014 Posts: 5230 Waterloo Dinosaurs Legends	Nice title. Been trying to work up the nerve to cut Hendricks. Not that long ago he was the engine that drove the offense of my team. This past season he hit .160 (a .125 BABIP ). He might have got the ABs to pull out of it, but the kid who is supposed to replace him has been sitting on the bench for 2 seasons now. He's long been my favourite player. Hard to press the button.

#26371	11/06/2015 8:50:20 am
buffmckagan Joined: 12/22/2013 Posts: 658 Scranton Bears Legends	I had a good chuckle at the title. Thanks for that. Lloyd Cobb was a painful cut, as a 13-year veteran with the organization. However, his SI is probably going to fall below 100 and there are guys whom I sat in favor of him like Fernando Estrada that will ultimately be better long-term decisions playing-wise and financially. Definitely struggling with cutting Ken Haas since he is good but will be expected to have a higher salary and a lower SI number and is starting to get up there in age. Bad fielder, decent pitcher. On the same boat with Ivan Wheeler. Would enjoy objective advice for either of those two guys.

#26425	11/07/2015 7:06:42 am
Benchwarmer Joined: 01/06/2015 Posts: 445 Inactive	Considering cutting my star SS Yeh as he's really lost a lot of SI in the last couple of seasons. Only problem is, I think he still might be my best option at SS until my young guy gets a little more experience under his belt in the bigs. He's also been one of my big sticks and was one of my stars when I picked up this team in 2021, so it's hard to let him go.

#26441	11/07/2015 9:51:34 am
motko Joined: 09/06/2014 Posts: 358 Nauvoo The Great Horned Owl III.3	Benchwarmer, i would cut Yeh asap. Hes not good in defence and he is weak spot 9th in lineup batter cos no pace nor bc.

#27080	11/18/2015 3:17:00 pm
Benchwarmer Joined: 01/06/2015 Posts: 445 Inactive	Pulled the trigger on sending Yeh to greener pastures today. Probably a good move for the team moving forward, but it really hurts to see him go.

#27081	11/18/2015 3:19:39 pm
Rock777 Joined: 09/21/2014 Posts: 9790 Haverhill Halflings Legends	It was painful releasing Federico Aguilar, but he was the least promising OF I had. Now I need to find another player to drop ...

#27338	11/26/2015 1:38:25 pm
Krakonico Joined: 01/04/2013 Posts: 312 Inactive	Mario Yanez: was drafted and after a month or two was kicked off, now he is playing in league II, and having a regular season there. If he was in my team he could be a good starting pitcher in my actual level.

#28567	01/02/2016 10:44:39 am
Brewnoe Joined: 03/25/2014 Posts: 829 Fall River Naughty Dawgs III.3	Ouch Greg Taylor .. my best waiver pickup in a long time, but he can't learn much more in AAA and he's not Fabian ... hope someone with playing time available gets him

#28569	01/02/2016 12:02:02 pm
Toon Squad Joined: 07/21/2015 Posts: 255 Inactive	http://brokenbat.org/player/118629 I had to cut him because I had a hard time finding a spot for him in my future plans. Ouch.

#31100	02/23/2016 4:21:26 pm
Toon Squad Joined: 07/21/2015 Posts: 255 Inactive	I had to cut Pedro Ramirez as he couldn't perform at LL.IV

#31101	02/23/2016 5:37:02 pm
Seca Joined: 05/05/2014 Posts: 5230 Waterloo Dinosaurs Legends	Wow. That is a poor start, but I think I would have given him more than 8 games to prove himself.

#31109	02/24/2016 12:46:55 am
Endrju Joined: 05/28/2015 Posts: 577 Inactive	I also think it's a bit impatient, but one man's loss is another's win, so I put a claim on him

#31113	02/24/2016 4:56:39 am
Seca Joined: 05/05/2014 Posts: 5230 Waterloo Dinosaurs Legends	Bradley was a difficult cut. He was the second draft pick that I kept. Only Dino to win Rookie Pitcher of the Year. Did everything that was asked of him - started, middle relief, setup, loogy. Was still pitching well, hadn't regressed in skill, and had a fair salary. But got crunched for pitcher slots, and let the oldest lefty go. Hope he does well in his new digs.

#31210	02/26/2016 3:41:53 am
kladu Joined: 02/03/2013 Posts: 57 Birmingham Athletics II.1	Hope this won't bite me, McCarthy as the oldest lefty joined the group of painful cuts since the end of 2024 season, quite a team: Hodge Daniel Turner Castillo Endou Medoza Holt Walter Updated Friday, February 26 2016 @ 4:10:55 am PST

#31211	02/26/2016 4:45:36 am
newtman Joined: 11/02/2013 Posts: 3343 Inactive	I finally cut Andujar, and it wasn't so much painful as it is that I hope I gave him a large enough sample to prove he's a dud.

#31304	02/28/2016 6:53:02 am
Pig_Cola Joined: 09/15/2013 Posts: 1445 Glendale Marshals VI.9	I cut Brandon McCarty. He gave us great production, but he started to fall off in the last two seasons. We also had drafted a 25 year old Japanese OF Mintao Jouda to replace McCarty.

#31399	03/02/2016 4:30:30 pm
Rock777 Joined: 09/21/2014 Posts: 9790 Haverhill Halflings Legends	He is hitting very well, but I'm still not convinced I should be keeping Randolph around if I can't get him into the lineup... As it is I already have two DHs in my vRHP lineup... Updated Wednesday, March 2 2016 @ 4:31:09 pm PST

#31672	03/11/2016 3:11:34 am
Favuz Joined: 02/26/2014 Posts: 664 Oxnard Sunsets IV.3	the recent promotion of a better 3B have me forced to cut Stone One of the first draft in my management, he has performed a little less than expected (low PD have hurt his production), but he can be a reliable 3B in league V and VI.

#31825	03/14/2016 6:21:15 pm
Brewnoe Joined: 03/25/2014 Posts: 829 Fall River Naughty Dawgs III.3	The day I've been dreading is fast approaching ... "Lucky" Hunter - 3x Cy young winner, 4x all league, 3x all-star. Franchise leader in career wins, strikeouts and ERA. Juan Navarrete - 3x all-league, 7x time all-star. Franchise #4 in career BA, #3 in hits, #2 in SBs + #5 in games, HRs and RBIs "Downtown" Gregory - 5x all-star Franchise leader in doubles, #3 in runs and OBP, #4 in RBIs and #5 in BA, hits, SLG and OPS ... are all under-performing their contracts this season. Can't decide if I should order the rocking chairs now or pay them while they play out the string. Pretty much stuck in non-promotion / non-relegation land and they're not taking playing time away from prospects for the most part.

#33187	04/10/2016 2:22:17 pm
buffmckagan Joined: 12/22/2013 Posts: 658 Scranton Bears Legends	I just cut Estrada. It's just hard for me to do when his SI is so high but he has never had a good offensive season. He's gotten three seasons to prove he can produce, but that's not going to happen. A Gold Glove is nice, but when your offense is so bad and you play a position where defensive skill is not as required, it's hard to justify keeping you when there's younger guys who have more potential. He's also the fifth player I ever drafted, so a part of me also misses the early days when he was one of the last players from the one of the earliest full rosters I had.

#35040	06/07/2016 3:39:10 am
amalric7 Joined: 01/20/2016 Posts: 2260 New York Lancers IV.2	I cut Ayala in the spring, despite his 13 pot and my having an ageing staff, mainly because he was a stamina-only guy and I had a bunch of those (all since moved). He's pitched in LL.VI this season, and I know that's the bottom rung but it still looks like a mistake! I'm not sure cutting Dominguez two days after signing him (even as a FA) was a bright idea either. Oh well, live and learn.

#35056	06/07/2016 10:30:22 am
5L1NK Joined: 06/10/2015 Posts: 297 Farmington Hills Cardinals Legends	IMO you were smart to cut Dominguez, he's 24 in AA, which means that there's a more than likely chance that if you decide to play him in the majors after the auto call-up then he will fail to meet his potential.

#35072	06/07/2016 2:32:04 pm
Rock777 Joined: 09/21/2014 Posts: 9790 Haverhill Halflings Legends	I've cut Villa three times. The last time was within hours of signing him, LOL.

#35074	06/07/2016 2:35:46 pm
Rock777 Joined: 09/21/2014 Posts: 9790 Haverhill Halflings Legends	It took me forever to cut Castillo. I never like the guy, and he promoted too quickly for me to teach him a position. My lack of a decent 3B compounded my reluctance to let him go. Finally pulled the trigger and I've been enjoying the lemonade

#35311	06/11/2016 5:18:12 pm
Squiddcatt Joined: 02/25/2016 Posts: 375 Inactive	Some of these moves are stuped but ok

#35317	06/11/2016 6:59:33 pm
Mcdoogle Joined: 05/21/2015 Posts: 243 Inactive	"I've cut Villa three times." At least whoever took over Bilbos team picked him up.

#35321	06/11/2016 8:43:20 pm
newtman Joined: 11/02/2013 Posts: 3343 Inactive	The intelligence of each move is context dependent. Who else is on the roster, what the finances look like, how many productive years a guy might have, etc. Many factors can go into cutting a really good player. By the way, it is spelled "stupid" not "stuped."

#35325	06/11/2016 9:24:30 pm
Dcmrulz Joined: 02/14/2013 Posts: 588 Inactive	I had to cut Pedro Ramirez as he couldn't perform at LL.IV I like to ride out pitchers, since eventually they start performing. That said, it pained me cutting Melo and Webb. Biggest butt-biter is definitely Aquierre, though.

#35327	06/11/2016 10:27:27 pm
Rock777 Joined: 09/21/2014 Posts: 9790 Haverhill Halflings Legends	At least whoever took over Bilbos team picked him up. I thought the same thing at first. And when they guy didn't move him down from AAA I sent him a PM suggesting he place Villa in the right minors system (Villa needs all the help he can get). Part of the reason I keep picking him up off FA is to try and get him a little extra training and onto another team. But now I have space on my team and patriotsfan has been MIA for a week... So I'm sad because Villa is going to get messed up and I could have actually given him some decent training Updated Saturday, June 11 2016 @ 10:30:47 pm PDT

#35438	06/13/2016 12:08:45 pm
Seca Joined: 05/05/2014 Posts: 5230 Waterloo Dinosaurs Legends	Dinos cut Golden loose this week. He was the 2nd ever draft pick of the Seca era, and the first one we kept. He never found much of niche with the club. Being a RHB with a 1B build wasn't very useful. If he'd been a LHB ... Oh well. Maybe he'll get a real opportunity with another club.

#38785	08/29/2016 4:09:57 pm
Pig_Cola Joined: 09/15/2013 Posts: 1445 Glendale Marshals VI.9	Some hard choices in the past couple days. Had to let go of Willie Rice and Alan Beck because the team needs to get younger. Beck is 34 and Rice is 32. Beck was a harder decision because he was doing pretty good this year and is a six time All-Star. Rice was easier because he wasn't performing well in the last couple of seasons. They were both a huge part of the Snakes run to Legends a couple of seasons ago.

#38794	08/30/2016 2:33:11 am
Favuz Joined: 02/26/2014 Posts: 664 Oxnard Sunsets IV.3	Please someone look at Jennings stats this year and tell me that i'm making the right decision cutting him at the end of the season, because i'm feeling like an idiot. Updated Tuesday, August 30 2016 @ 2:33:28 am PDT

#38795	08/30/2016 6:31:24 am
MukilteoMike Joined: 08/09/2014 Posts: 3294 Inactive	Favuz, he's dropped 19 SI in the last three years and is still somehow hitting nearly his career averages. Depending on your roster and goals for next year, I could see both playing and cutting him. Sorry.

#38797	08/30/2016 8:20:18 am
newtman Joined: 11/02/2013 Posts: 3343 Inactive	@Favuz, who do you have at DH? Even though his fielding percentage is still good, his range is likely hurting your aggregate even at 1B with that 5 range. Unfortunately I agree with Mike, unless he is blocking a superstar in the making, I'd stick with him until his stats actually drop off. He is still batting over .310, that is impossible to cut in my opinion unless as I said, he is blocking a super star from developing. Edit: Took a quick look at your minors, and I'd say that you will need to cut someone for Bentley to get the playing time he'll need. Whether you decide to actually put Bentley at 1B or move one of your current OFs who also have 1B eligibility there in order to get them into the game is up to you, but you do have options. I'd actually consider cutting Copeland and move Jennings to DH. Dunno, tough decision. Updated Tuesday, August 30 2016 @ 8:34:58 am PDT

#38802	08/30/2016 1:14:16 pm
Seca Joined: 05/05/2014 Posts: 5230 Waterloo Dinosaurs Legends	I would have difficulty cutting Jennings, but I get sentimental about players. 2000 hits is a pretty nice milestone - one he would reach next season if he continues to play near his current level. Then again, you are in position to promote. You don't want to hurt your chances of sticking in III (should you make it) by allowing an oldster to chase a milestone. Tough one. As the wafflers before me, I am little help. Glad it is your decision.

#38803	08/30/2016 1:20:24 pm
amalric7 Joined: 01/20/2016 Posts: 2260 New York Lancers IV.2	Was just a week ago I mentioned Filippini in the "Free Agents -> All Stars" thread. Been a great find for me, two-time All Star and a Gold Glove winner last year. Still hitting .277 with an .804 OPS this season. I cut him last night. Problem is he's hitting just .193 since the All-Star break (17-for-88), after hitting .240 post-ASB last season. He's given me three good half seasons, or close to it, but he was already sitting a lot of the time against LHP and if he can't hit RHP now I'm not willing to keep him on for another second-half swoon when he's age 34. I also have two young-ish guys in Moody and Barrett who need all the AB they can get, and even if they slump its not like 1B is a hard position to fill. I clung on to a couple of vets last season to keep me in LLIV and it didn't work, this year I'm being more ruthless and will see how it plays out.

#38822	08/31/2016 2:05:06 am
Favuz Joined: 02/26/2014 Posts: 664 Oxnard Sunsets IV.3	Thank you guys for all the answers, it's a tough choice indeed. Newt you're right, i've got Bentley who will be ready for beginning of next year (training 2/3 i think) so my plan for 2029 is VS RHP Bentley 1B O'Neill DH VS LHP Bentley/O'Neill 1B Copeland DH Then Cutting Copeland at the end of 2029. I could cut Copeland and keep Jennings for another year, Copeland is 33 and hasn't drop a single point but the numbers have started to drop, while Jennings is losing a huge amount of points (and another 6-8 next year) but is still hitting. I think that's another showing of "don't look only at SI when judging a player" . I'll think about it for another couple of weeks, now its time to promote not to think at the offseason.

#39358	09/13/2016 5:16:25 pm
Seca Joined: 05/05/2014 Posts: 5230 Waterloo Dinosaurs Legends	Not full out lemon juice, but I feel bad cutting Oliva. He had a wonderful season as this year's old dude that can play 2B. He may well be in line for all league at his position. But I don't have a spot for him next season, he's likely to be ravaged by the aging update, and its going to cost me $380,000 to see if he gets that recognition. Gotta be done.

#39362	09/13/2016 7:37:39 pm
Rock777 Joined: 09/21/2014 Posts: 9790 Haverhill Halflings Legends	@Favuz - A couple weeks later, and it looks like you are promoting. Jennings is still a tough cut, but I'd probably recommend it. He will likely decline, and the transition between leagues can be devastating to players. Of course, I always prefer to wait until after update 0 just to see how badly they get hit by father time.

#39363	09/13/2016 7:38:13 pm
Rock777 Joined: 09/21/2014 Posts: 9790 Haverhill Halflings Legends	I'm choosing to not drink the lemon juice. I'm going to keep the guys I should be cutting.

#39370	09/13/2016 9:25:00 pm
newtman Joined: 11/02/2013 Posts: 3343 Inactive	My cuts will come after seeing what update #0 does to my older players. Not like I'm going to run out of money anyways, so might as well hold them until then and the waivers open again.

#39389	09/14/2016 8:20:34 am
amalric7 Joined: 01/20/2016 Posts: 2260 New York Lancers IV.2	Yes, I could save about $700k cutting two of my All-Star pitchers, and I doubt either makes All-League (although Silva might). But I want to hang onto them until update #0 - I don't need the money that badly (at this time) either. Updated Wednesday, September 14 2016 @ 8:21:30 am PDT

#39420	09/15/2016 5:14:51 am
BadgerBoy Joined: 09/06/2015 Posts: 77 Inactive	Cut ties with Parsons http://brokenbat.org/player/94442 and Stallings http://brokenbat.org/player/92149. Both I brought on when when I took over the team and both have served me well. As I have progressed I have stated focusing on better fits for each position. Sure Parsons hits 25+ hrs every season with a decent average, problem is he also led my team in K's and his defense was very lackluster. I feel I needed to shore up outfield D and he was standing in the way of that. Now on to Stallings....well this guy has a lot of upside, he steals bases well, he hits for a decent average, he switch hits (not very evenly though). Problem is I never got to get him trained where he needed to be (2B). My Superstar Sutcliffe has had that spot locked down since picking him up. I was playing him at DH and backup catcher, his arm is terrible for C and he doesn't have the power to satisfy my needs at DH. I know both these guys will find great homes (probably in VI) and will serve their new teams well, if someone has the patience Stallings could be a serviceable 2B. Sad to say I was attached to these pretend guys, and they will be missed LMAO.

#39429	09/15/2016 11:28:04 am
mikkoredsox Joined: 03/29/2015 Posts: 116 Inactive	I'm thinking of cutting ties with a few guys due to the youth movement I currently have coming up. My considerations: Ernie Fleming Yoshio Fukuda Tom Patton Henry Morris Randall Bennett Fleming: Down year average-wise, does have some power, but a weak arm at an older age in the backup catcher slot. Fukuda: This guy is INSANE! This guy just mashes at the plate. I'd like to hang onto him and see if he continues hitting well. Patton: The average is down, and he looks to be the fourth outfielder. Cut? Older and expensive. The arm is concerning in the outfield. Morris: Still pitching great and has only lost 2 off of his max SI at the age of 34. I will have to see how he ages. Bennett: While he will be 31, he has always been effective in the bullpen. Probably worth keeping for a reliable arm. Gill will be kept over Patton. Definitely have some tough choices to make. I look to add a SS and C in free agency. Anyone else have an opinion on these potential cuts? Any advice helps, thanks.

#39434	09/15/2016 1:54:39 pm
AD24 Joined: 09/04/2015 Posts: 112 Inactive	I'm tempted to cut Mendez and Cooper right now because they were lackluster last season, but I have nobody to replace them with right now.

#39436	09/15/2016 2:27:48 pm
newtman Joined: 11/02/2013 Posts: 3343 Inactive	@mikkoredsox, Fleming shouldn't be a catcher, his arm is hurting you behind the plate. If that is the only place you can play him, then you need to cut him, and it would not be painful. Fukuda, I suspect will not mash like this much longer, he dropped 5 SI last off-season and usually once that sort of decline happens it will continue to drop sharply, which considering his peak was 94... All of the others would be tougher cuts.

#39437	09/15/2016 2:30:26 pm
mikkoredsox Joined: 03/29/2015 Posts: 116 Inactive	Thanks for the advice newtman. His arm was a reason I made him the backup as soon as Betto was ready for the big leagues. The plan is to find a serviceable backup. Updated Thursday, September 15 2016 @ 2:30:54 pm PDT

#39439	09/15/2016 3:02:26 pm
amalric7 Joined: 01/20/2016 Posts: 2260 New York Lancers IV.2	@mikko - have to agree with newtman. Also, Morris hasn't declined much but turning 35 he might fall off the cliff next season. Bennett has decent numbers but seeing as you have a full complement of 13 pitchers already is there any real point in keeping both/either? @AD24 - you just won it all, fix your own problems! Seriously, maybe try those guys in the pen, see if that helps them? Mendez may be getting too old in any case.

#39441	09/15/2016 3:07:06 pm
Raze Joined: 06/04/2015 Posts: 97 Inactive	I think its time to let Jerry go.. No matter how much it pains me.

#39444	09/15/2016 3:28:19 pm
mikkoredsox Joined: 03/29/2015 Posts: 116 Inactive	@amalric7 - More to think about with the pitching! Thanks for the advice. I'm not too concerned with my finances right now so I'm going to wait and see what happen at training #0. At that point I'll have a few decisions to make.

#39456	09/15/2016 10:40:18 pm
MukilteoMike Joined: 08/09/2014 Posts: 3294 Inactive	I've been clinging to the hope that my eldest player, Salgado, would be able to stick around for one more year. Maybe the close of the harsh season made me realize that's probably a pipe dream. I should probably cut him now and save a couple hundred thousand dollars. He's always outperformed his skills, so I think I'm going to make the game engine tell me he's declined another four SI before I send him on his way. I'm not looking forward to that. Here's a weird fact for him--he was an All Star this year with only 131 at bats for the season. That's easily a record low for my team and surely is in contention for a site low. http://brokenbat.org/player/74515 Updated Thursday, September 15 2016 @ 10:51:29 pm PDT

#39599	09/17/2016 10:10:12 pm
Alpo Joined: 06/27/2016 Posts: 54 Inactive	Just wondering what you guys think I should do with Mario Wynn, I am leaning towards releasing him because his of his salary and I don't think I would have a place to play him this year. http://brokenbat.org/player/72943

#39601	09/17/2016 10:37:34 pm
Rock777 Joined: 09/21/2014 Posts: 9790 Haverhill Halflings Legends	He isn't a good SS. I would release him.

#39650	09/18/2016 1:20:06 pm
amalric7 Joined: 01/20/2016 Posts: 2260 New York Lancers IV.2	He's hit a bunch of HR in recent seasons but that's probably his only value and he's slipping badly, I'd cut.

#39698	09/19/2016 5:19:50 am
Raze Joined: 06/04/2015 Posts: 97 Inactive	Now that we claimed Yakoitowo, my pitching looks really well rounded. Do you guys agree that the next cut should be Jeff Tate?

#39704	09/19/2016 5:40:46 am
amalric7 Joined: 01/20/2016 Posts: 2260 New York Lancers IV.2	Tate has a good report, so maybe its just the level he's had to play at that has made his numbers suffer, or perhaps he'd be better in the rotation throwing 75-90 pitches as the pen doesn't seem to work for him? He'd make an ideal LLV pitcher. If you have to make room for Moreno and/or Pardo he looks like the choice, but I'd look to cut someone else - Kelley for instance, must be better C out there.

#39705	09/19/2016 5:58:39 am
Raze Joined: 06/04/2015 Posts: 97 Inactive	Yes, I'm struggling with the offense until the younger guys arrive. Surviving each season, all from waiver luck. Had a C last year, had to cut him, and now trying to claim a new one. But I guess you're right I could cut Kelly. I think I'll do it. Regarding Tate, the only reason I dont like him is because of his control. I have no love for the guys with 12-13 control or below. Updated Monday, September 19 2016 @ 6:02:34 am PDT

#39708	09/19/2016 6:50:06 am
amalric7 Joined: 01/20/2016 Posts: 2260 New York Lancers IV.2	I've gone from one extreme to another. When I started I had a handful of guys with great control and nothing else, all CON 16+, and they got shelled continuously. Now I find guy with great stuff have some bad days but can still pitch really well most of the time. And average control can be plenty good enough. Take Silva: he's been lights-out for me for two straight seasons and won the Cy Young last season, all with control in the 10-11 range. He won't be the same pitcher this season and may not make the opening day roster, but no arguing his value.

#40158	09/30/2016 11:05:34 am
Raze Joined: 06/04/2015 Posts: 97 Inactive	Now more than ever I need some suggestions on who to cut😖 Tate, Claudio? Anyone else?

#40167	09/30/2016 2:45:20 pm
amalric7 Joined: 01/20/2016 Posts: 2260 New York Lancers IV.2	I'd actually cut Gray. Not a bad build, but you have so many arms in your minors I think you can afford to lose him. (Heck, you could lose half the arms in your minors and still field a full pitching lineup!)

#40168	09/30/2016 2:49:26 pm
newtman Joined: 11/02/2013 Posts: 3343 Inactive	Either Pardo or Vasquez (Claudio) would be my first cut. Pardo honestly doesn't look like he will be impressive at all, the "major league" fastball isn't good enough to get good hitters out consistently, and he doesn't look to be developing the CoS that would be needed in that sort of report to make up for it. I would cut either of those guys without too much worrying.

#40171	09/30/2016 3:41:48 pm
Raze Joined: 06/04/2015 Posts: 97 Inactive	OK, I agree that either Gray, Claudio or Pardo should go first. I feel Gray would be the last one, considering his build, strikeout pitcher and high ctrl. Pardo could possibly end up with 16-11-12-18-12, and Claudio on the other hand 8-15-17-13-18. But, as you both said, cutting either of them wouldnt be a big loss. I'm convinced. Thanks.

#40613	10/11/2016 7:37:48 am
amalric7 Joined: 01/20/2016 Posts: 2260 New York Lancers IV.2	I have a cut to make, not sure where to go. Some options:- Montes is the obvious choice, but he's gained 4SI already this year and if he gets into the 18+ range (which is definitely possible) this year and next he could be a very effective pitcher even without a report beyond very good potential (but 14 POT), even if he'll be 28 by that point. Maldonado is a slow developer who has been very average (but been okay this season, and +3 SI already), but again if he makes a sizeable gain this year he could be an effective pitcher. He's 26 too, and also one of the few LHP I have. But I have a full complement of pitching in the majors, and Knepper is due up this season. If I hadn't lost a starter to a 36-game injury I'd likely have cut one of the two already. There's also these guys:- Salgado is basically where Burkhart will be in three seasons, so they're essentially the same player. Both have been slow to develop (which is why they were both waiver claims) and both are 1B/OF types (Salgado might make 3B but I don't need him there, really). There are a couple of 1B/OF types further down my ladder who are a couple of years away. Norton is a 3B/C, Jorgensen a CI/DH type, Sheppard is OF, Kennedy 3B. Olivas is a 24-yo in AA but he's popped 4SI since I claimed him just two weeks ago, and is my only 2B prospect.

#40615	10/11/2016 8:57:31 am
Carcharoth Joined: 07/16/2015 Posts: 149 Inactive	@amalric Tough questions to answer. I think it really depends on where you want to take your team next. I love the 26 yo pitching projects, especially when they pan out for you. Childs is a great example of that. If you take a look I actually had Montes for a short time but dropped him, I think he's a bit too far behind his development curve and didn't have enough time at AAA to hit his peak. Childs had quite a bit better pitching ability when he started in the majors at 26 and he won't be able to cap either, but I don't think Montes will make it. Maldonado is okay but also not fantastic, he also didn't have much time in AAA. He should build with a lot of control though, which is great in LL V. I'm less confident with position players, haven't had any great successes. Pitchers can pop 20+ SI in a single season if given enough innings, but position players don't seem to get the same boosts. It's tough to pass on a potential great hitter like Salgado, but if he ever gets to the point where he is taking ABs away from your better developed rookies I would cut him; he didn't get much time at AAA so I'd bet that he won't cap either. My first cut would be Montes though.

#40619	10/11/2016 11:39:03 am
xLee227 Joined: 07/06/2015 Posts: 269 Inactive	I've also got a tough cut to make today, here are some guys I'm considering: Carey: My lowest pt (he's only a 12), but he projects to have great hitting to pair with 16 range/14 arm/solid fielding. I think he can be a regular at second down the road despite his 12 pt, so I'm a little hesitant cutting him Mathewson: 33-year-old setup man, he doesn't look that great on paper but he's been my most solid and dependable arm for the last couple of seasons (sub-3 ERAs in LL3/4). He seems to have lost a step this season, although small sample size and all Buchanan: Another veteran arm, he's been a backend rotation kind of guy the last couple seasons. Solid (which wasn't bad for LL3!) ERA around 4.00 but lacks an "out" pitch with a lot of SI in defense/stamina/control Bonilla: 25-year-old center fielder who's kinda got lost in the shuffle among my array of young hitters. I'm having trouble giving him regular at bats, so I doubt he's ever going to reach his potential at this rate. Greer: A somewhat washed-out 27-year-old prospect who definitely won't be able to reach his 14pt, although he's been useful off the bench in a limited utility role so far. Of course, feel free to look through my roster and let me know if there's anyone else you think I should cut!

#40629	10/11/2016 2:32:06 pm
amalric7 Joined: 01/20/2016 Posts: 2260 New York Lancers IV.2	@xLee - If Carey maxes out he'll be something like 18/14/9/5/12/15/16/14. I guess that would play at 2B, but I see it more as a backup. He just lacks...star power? I guess he could hang on for now. Mathewson I'd probably keep for now, but I'd cut Buchanan. I'd keep Bonilla and try to get him more PT, but Greer I don't know - I have a similar (batting) guy in Moody, who spent 1-2 years too long in A ball thanks to previous owners. Funnily enough, he's never been up to the standards he set in A ball! I'm keeping Moody to platoon at 1B, but both sides of my platoon suck at the moment. Now - say something about my problem!

#40630	10/11/2016 2:34:34 pm
amalric7 Joined: 01/20/2016 Posts: 2260 New York Lancers IV.2	Just had another starter go down for 7 games, after putting up a W. Think Montes and Maldonado might be hanging on...

#40631	10/11/2016 2:40:02 pm
el_jefe_loco Joined: 02/25/2015 Posts: 73 Inactive	@ Lee My take on your position players... Greer (27) and Bonilla (26) look like pretty similar players to me... so you can easily cut one of these guys, especially if they are fighting each other for AB (or since neither are getting much playing time at all this season). Only one year age difference, both with good OF range, and with ok but not great offensive builds. Neither guy is likely to max out his potential especially if you have a hard time getting either ABs, so they both look like 4th OF types to me in your org. Carey is a decent prospect, but if you do the math on his SI potential I'd be skeptical he will be the starting 2B of your future. He will be a solid but not gold-glove caliber 2B with a 14-16-14 skill set. Offensively - if you assume he hits ~18 bat and has 27 remaining offensive SI to spread around - you are looking at a 18-9-9-9 type build... I could live with this offensive build if he was an elite defender, but I'm not sure this guy grades out as a great prospect.

#40632	10/11/2016 2:58:26 pm
xLee227 Joined: 07/06/2015 Posts: 269 Inactive	@amalric haha thanks for the feedback! Here goes with my thoughts on your options: To be honest, I actually cut Montes off my own team last season since I already had two reclaim projects of my own in Morales and Espinosa. Between Montes and Maldonado, I would keep Maldonado out of the two of them because he is farther along development-wise than Montes, hence giving him a higher floor. I agree, though, ceiling-wise that Montes could hypothetically gain 18+ SI this season and next, although I'm skeptical that'll happen especially given his lack of AAA-experience. That being said, I think Kokawa could be an option for you to consider as well. He's already 27, and his SI growth has been painfully slow (+4/+3 the last 2 seasons). I really doubt that'll he'll improve significantly, I see his ceiling as maybe a guy like Zhou who I had a couple season back. I gave Zhou an astornomical 1,296 at bats in league and cup play to even get him to 107SI, but it looks like you're only playing Kokawa in the cup so far so I'm not sure if he'll get enough playing time to improve as much as Zhou did. Thanks @el_jefe_loco!

#40634	10/11/2016 3:21:16 pm
newtman Joined: 11/02/2013 Posts: 3343 Inactive	@almaric, personally, I'd keep the higher ceiling guy, but then again I am running an experiment right now in my AAA. If you drop Montes, I think he'd be a nice complement to Murillo, Rosa, and Quintanilla (if I win the claim). Edit: I will disclose I didn't look at your roster past those two guys, so someone else might be better to cut. I'm kind of tired right now, I'll try to look later if it is still relevant. Updated Tuesday, October 11 2016 @ 3:33:29 pm PDT

#40640	10/11/2016 6:45:24 pm
Carcharoth Joined: 07/16/2015 Posts: 149 Inactive	@Lee just thought I'd throw in my two cents as well :P I'm not super high on Carey either, he will have a hit tool but unless it's overwhelmingly good, nothing else in his build will really help him out. It's nice to have great hitters, but he's not a sure keep. Perhaps he could be a decent backup middle infielder though, and bring some value via SS? Mathewson looks phenomenal but dropped a lot in the off season and has had a slow start. If you need the BP arms (as it seems everyone needs pitching) I would definitely keep him, but watch his performance closely. However, I would be tempted to move on from Buchanan. He's never pitched very well and always gives up a lot of hits; unless you have amazing defense, I think he'll continue to be mediocre. Again though, if you need a BP arm then keep him Bonilla and Greer are interesting. I disagree with the posts above, Bonilla is a bona fide CF/RF with that arm whereas Greer would be in LF for me. Greer is getting a bit old and unfortunately his hit tool hasn't developed very well; most of us would prefer OFs who bring a bit more on offense. Bonilla is more of an unknown as he still has a couple of years to develop and hasn't played much in the majors. If you want to drop a position player I'd be tempted to keep Bonilla since he has more room to grow and will still have defensive value if his bat doesn't develop. Although I like Greer's ability to take a walk, in my opinion you can pick up better LF builds on a 12 POT on waivers. As a non sequiter this is how I used to artificially inject offense into my lineup when my draftees weren't ready yet; I'd sign the best hitters I could find and put them at LF/1B/DH.

#40655	10/12/2016 4:27:44 am
amalric7 Joined: 01/20/2016 Posts: 2260 New York Lancers IV.2	Well as it happened I cut the guy I just claimed yesterday and kept all the guys I listed. Maldonado got shelled in his start in game two last night, but so did everyone else who went out that game - four pitchers combined to give up 21 hits and 18 runs (11 ER), in just eight innings. Think that's my worst loss ever, in 3+ seasons, but the upside of that is that I just wrote it off as a freak occurrence and thought I'd try all those guys at least once more. We actually took the series 2-1, so I was ultimately pretty happy.

#40656	10/12/2016 7:45:03 am
Carcharoth Joined: 07/16/2015 Posts: 149 Inactive	Alright my turn to ask for some advice I picked up McKinney on waivers today, and I'm a bit on the fence whether to keep him or not. Lots of BBs but good hit suppression and keeps the ball in the park okay. Here's what he has the potential to replace: DiMaggio is old but solid. Especially at LL.V he's always been a dependable SP. I don't think I need him to promote though. Clements is a great LL.V SP with Cy Young potential. However, he's also shown he can't handle LL.IV bats. He's finished developing, so I'm not sure if I really need him at this point. Fitzpatrick is a waiver pickup and my current LR. I was hoping he'd develop a nice CoS build but so far no luck... unless he gets a growth spurt he's probably gone at the end of the year. Grady is still a question mark for me. If he gets CoS up to 16 or so then I'll be happy enough, but without that I don't think he'll be good enough to pitch in higher leagues. He's also young and cheap and can certainly be SP5 on my roster so I'm hesitant to drop him. McDonald is probably the last one I'd drop. He hasn't performed up to his potential yet, but I'm hoping he can replace DiMaggio as a LHP moving forward. Please feel free to look at my other pitchers in the majors for further suggestions. Updated Wednesday, October 12 2016 @ 7:55:40 am PDT

#40660	10/12/2016 8:33:02 am
amalric7 Joined: 01/20/2016 Posts: 2260 New York Lancers IV.2	I'm not sure Fitzpatrick or Grady will ever top out at what you hope they will, given they're almost at their cap limits. And I'm not sure a 4 Vel will ever cut it at any level - is McDonald throwing underhand? I'd keep McKinney over all three of those guys. Updated Wednesday, October 12 2016 @ 8:33:44 am PDT

#40662	10/12/2016 9:10:05 am
el_jefe_loco Joined: 02/25/2015 Posts: 73 Inactive	@ Carcharoth Nice pickup with McKinney, I had a claim on him too... I would agree - hang on to DiMaggio and Clements at this point. Both have a proven enough track record. As for the other three, they all seem very similar. All are high control and decent stamina, with not great "stuff"... basically good innings eaters. I'd probably cut Fitzpatrick, unless you are able to get him enough innings to bump up his SI by another 7-9 SI over the next season like you did last year. His ceiling is higher than either of the two guys below, but it'll take another year's investment of innings to get him there. Grady and McDonald are similar enough... if you need a tiebreaker to decide who to keep, Grady has put up better numbers in 2018/29.

#40667	10/12/2016 10:43:17 am
xLee227 Joined: 07/06/2015 Posts: 269 Inactive	I agree with the guys above, I'd keep McKinney for now. Fitzpatrick for me doesn't seem too promising and would probably be my first cut. I don't really see him developing an effective CoS pitch, especially if you are only using him in long relief since I doubt he will get enough innings to improve significantly. Between Grady and McDonald, I'd cut McDonald. He's 2 years older, less likely to improve/reach his cap, and has put up worse numbers than Grady. In addition, Grady's pitching attributes are almost at the same level as McDonald's already, and I would expect Grady to pass McDonald by the end of this season.

#40673	10/12/2016 2:29:53 pm
newtman Joined: 11/02/2013 Posts: 3343 Inactive	Looking at Grady's innings pitched, his potential, and his scouting reports, I'm calling that he is done growing. His stamina is where his report says it should max, he is at nearly 200 innings pitched in the majors, and his SI is right smack in the middle of the 12 potential cap range. I'd probably cut Fitzpatrick, as I think he won't hit his cap without at least a half of a season more at AAA judging from his growth through his first 85 major league innings. Just my two cents.

#40676	10/12/2016 3:04:39 pm
Carcharoth Joined: 07/16/2015 Posts: 149 Inactive	Thanks everyone for your thoughts. I think I'm pretty set on dropping Fitzpatrick, I don't think he's going to get much more in his pitching skills so I'm probably going to let him go. I'm pretty surprised a lot of you are low on McDonald; even with low velo, he has his slider working and a good GB/FB to show for it. His struggle is with BBs, which I'm hoping he can rein in this year. @amalric Yeah Grady will be cut soon too I think. However, with McDonald, Steve has said that individual pitches are not considered during the sim, so his low velocity doesn't affect his fastballs specifically. I've had no problems with soft-tossing pitchers; they never get many Ks, but with the slider he keeps the ball on the ground. @el_jefe Thanks! First big claim in quite a while so I was pleasantly surprised in the morning. I agree Grady was better last season, but I actually think Fitzpatrick has the lowest ceiling given his development trajectory. @Lee I'm with you on Fitzpatrick, I don't think he's going to get the CoS. Grady doesn't have a 15-16+ pitch which is what worries me. I can deal with one weak pitch as long as there's some good stuff. DiMaggio is a good example of that. I also can't remember if either Grady or McDonald had more development at the beginning of last season and because they both developed so much, I'm not sure about comparing their performance. @newt I'm hoping you're wrong and Grady will cap, especially since he came up early. Then again, if it's all in pitching it's only going to be 4 more skill points so some has to go into CoS if he's going to improve much.

#40678	10/12/2016 3:15:33 pm
newtman Joined: 11/02/2013 Posts: 3343 Inactive	@Carch, you're misinterpreting how the potential works, he wouldn't be short of his cap right now, he would be right in the middle of it. Relatively few 12 potentials make it to 102, as most will hit their max between 95 and 101. It's normal that you would want me to be wrong, but I'd say I'm not with ~80% certainty based on past experiences in these situations.

#40680	10/12/2016 3:29:14 pm
Carcharoth Joined: 07/16/2015 Posts: 149 Inactive	@newt are you sure that's how it works? I thought POT was a cap on SI at 8*POT+7, so e.g. a 12 POT can get up to 103 SI. I understand that a 12 POT hitting 96 SI means they surpassed the SI of an 11 POT so they are in the range of a 12 POT, but it's impossible to tell if they don't max out at 103 SI because they were never supposed to or if they did not receive adequate training. Currently I'm operating under the assumption that a player's POT gives you a hard cap on SI at the max from the formula. Looking at it as a range works too. tldr: We have no reason to believe that a particular player cannot hit the absolute max SI as dictated by their POT. It might satisfy you that the player was developed properly, but I don't think it's accurate to claim a player is finished developing just because they are somewhere in the range where only a POT 12 or higher could be (in the case of Grady).

#40682	10/12/2016 3:38:29 pm
newtman Joined: 11/02/2013 Posts: 3343 Inactive	I am 100% sure that is how it works. 8Pot+7 only gives you the upper end of the potential range. The cap on any given player is somewhere within that range between 8Pot and 8Pot+7. Edit: I am basing this certainty on having developed dozens of players from scratch, and seeing them fall short of 8Pot+7 despite them being developed perfectly. For examples see Posada, Cardona, Abbott, or Amador for starters... if you can find a single place where I did something wrong, or trained them sub-optimally, I will drop my certainty. Updated Wednesday, October 12 2016 @ 3:44:38 pm PDT

#40683	10/12/2016 3:53:13 pm
newtman Joined: 11/02/2013 Posts: 3343 Inactive	We have no reason to believe that a particular player cannot hit the absolute max SI as dictated by their POT. It might satisfy you that the player was developed properly, but I don't think it's accurate to claim a player is finished developing just because they are somewhere in the range where only a POT 12 or higher could be (in the case of Grady). We have no information that says just because a player has a listed potential that they have an optimal SI of that specific equation. As a matter of fact it defies reasonable expectation to even think that, as virtually every aspect of this game operates on ranges and an element of uncertainty. Having it so that you could know a player's optimal potential down to the very point would mean that if you trained your players perfectly, then you would see them all come out to either 127, 119, 111, 103, 95, or 87 which I think anyone who has played this game for any length of time and paid attention will tell you that doesn't happen.

#40684	10/12/2016 4:27:44 pm
Carcharoth Joined: 07/16/2015 Posts: 149 Inactive	@newt Not to be a stickler but no one knows that the optimal training is. And different times appear to work differently for different players. So it's impossible for us to say that we know exactly how it works and that our management results in the max SI for each player. The other issue is that players can fall below the range as well. Many players note that Asian and Latin American players seem to miss their SI thresholds quite often, even when they are developed the same way as prospects from other regions. This is why I feel that your range is quite artificial. At most all we know for sure is that POT gives a rough idea of the max SI for a player. In fact, for older prospects I've started to look at growth trends instead to get an idea of where a player might be able to get before getting the "too old" message. But I would hesitate to claim that POT gives you a lower bound on SI as well, even if it's just because we don't know what optimal training looks like. And after all, the fact that everything is in a black box is part of the fun of BB. Updated Wednesday, October 12 2016 @ 4:29:07 pm PDT

#40687	10/12/2016 5:33:22 pm
newtman Joined: 11/02/2013 Posts: 3343 Inactive	Well, I'm actively testing the theory with Latin players at AAA right now. See Rosa, Quintanilla, and Murillo. No offense, but that is reductionist logic you are using, and by those same lines we can't say we know anything about Broken Bat at all due to our inability to separate variables or know all the factors. I'm pretty darn sure I'm right on this, but no, I don't have any proof beyond the players that I've trained. I look at player growth as well, but I don't think you can make projections on what a player's cap will be based off of it. I've seen too many guys pop a couple points at 30 or continue seeing strong training growth in the minors at 25 and 26 to think that growth is the magic projection bullet. Note: My current Latin test is being heavily influenced by Seca's posts over the past few months talking about the best measure of training readiness being giving players a roughly equal amount of time at every level after their first level progression in the minors, as they seem to progress through the levels at an even pace, though their SI growth can be very uneven. Updated Wednesday, October 12 2016 @ 5:44:22 pm PDT

#40692	10/12/2016 7:38:34 pm
buffmckagan Joined: 12/22/2013 Posts: 658 Scranton Bears Legends	Federico Gonzales has been getting progressively worse and is now in his early 30s - I know I asked similarly about Francisco Becerra last year - is it time to part ways? Fed's ERA, FIP, and BAA have all been on an upward incline for all officially games for the last 5+ years, even if he was still really good between 2025-2027. His SI has not really taken that many hits even if his performance has clearly degraded. I do have another pitcher ready to take his place, and it would be nice to have room for another prospect, but it would be nice to see him finish his career here. Also, rebuilding is not as fun as competing, especially with at least one player in his absolute prime. Thoughts? Updated Wednesday, October 12 2016 @ 7:39:50 pm PDT

#40707	10/13/2016 3:04:07 pm
amalric7 Joined: 01/20/2016 Posts: 2260 New York Lancers IV.2	Might just be Gonzales' poor control that is letting him down, still too early to tell and though he is starting to drop SI he should still be an effective pitcher. If you don't have anyone else to replace in order to get Hansen in however, then he might have to go...

#40735	10/14/2016 4:13:12 am
amalric7 Joined: 01/20/2016 Posts: 2260 New York Lancers IV.2	I've seen too many guys pop a couple points at 30 or continue seeing strong training growth in the minors at 25 and 26 to think that growth is the magic projection bullet. Got one for you today: at age 31, and 2/3 of the way through his 36-game injury, "Cannonball" Chris Wood just gained a point of Velocity to hit 20. No-one more surprised (and pleased) than me!

#40736	10/14/2016 4:18:10 am
amalric7 Joined: 01/20/2016 Posts: 2260 New York Lancers IV.2	And LOL, further to my post from a few days ago... Salgado (1), Burkhart (2), Maldonado (1) and Montes (2) all popped today. Guess I cut the right guy.

#40742	10/14/2016 5:30:25 am
newtman Joined: 11/02/2013 Posts: 3343 Inactive	Probably going to kick myself for this one, but for the second straight week I cut a veteran who wasn't getting into the games because I have so many young players coming up right now. Kirby on offense is still very much a threat, but he is only trained at SS and now that he is down to 12 range he is even more of a liability there. This was a move definitely geared more for the long term than the short term, I only hope it pays off since my already very weak offense just got even weaker.

#40923	10/19/2016 1:18:55 am
MukilteoMike Joined: 08/09/2014 Posts: 3294 Inactive	I’m at a full roster of 50, so I probably should release a couple guys. I have no idea who should be given their walking papers, though. I’m hoping to battle out of relegation, so I can’t simply dismiss my older guys. I expect all of my veterans to make next year’s squad anyway. On the pitching side, Billy Murray showed promise as a youngster, but his developed skills made him worse instead of better. He’s 30, which would make it a little easier to fire him. Alvarez and Solis are both highly skilled 29 year-old LHPs, but they both stink despite pitching for their national teams. Alvarez really ticks me off with his 17-14-15-16 pitching skills that amount to bupkiss. I have an incredibly difficult time releasing guys that look like they should be something. He and Solis put up similarly bad numbers, so I should probably bail on one of them and let the other suck in the released party’s stead. On the position player side, my oldie is Lemus at 32, but he’s one of the few guys that actually hits lefties well; he has to stay. I probably should look to the infield for my cut bait. Manning and McKenzie have second and third locked down for at least a couple more years. I thought Alarcon was going to be the man at short, but he looks destined to be an under .600 OPS guy and has fielded poorly despite his “outstanding” play in the field. Zuniga is hitting out of his mind this season, but failed to reach an OPS of 500 last year; his 7 hitting has me nervous. Jeong and Bannon are both on the young side and should take the middle in a few years. Cardenas is the jack of all trades, as he could play any position on the field; unfortunately I think I might be a better hitter than him. From my minor league guys, well, I don’t feel like I can cut any of them. The lowest guys from the Prospect Ranking are performing the best, so I don’t think I could send any of them packing. My pitching is horrible in the majors, which pretty much makes me committed to keeping all my arms because I need help on the mound in a big way. Ugh. Over analyzing, I know. I think it happens most to me when my team bites. Like now. Any assistance or opinions would be welcomed. I actually can’t wait to fire some under-performing piles of. Updated Wednesday, October 19 2016 @ 1:19:20 am PDT

#40934	10/19/2016 1:16:28 pm
xLee227 Joined: 07/06/2015 Posts: 269 Inactive	I took a look at your roster, and I would probably cut Yoshida. I know you just signed him off free agency, but he's already 27 and still only has 81 SI, a fourth of it in defense alone. I doubt he's ever going to reach his potential especially given that he has never played AAA and I don't think a relief role will give him enough innings to develop. Other guys which stood out to me in terms of being possibly cut-worthy are Brooks and McKee. Similar guys, both should be in their prime at 27 already but instead both are still quite behind in their development.

#41281	10/28/2016 4:30:22 am
Favuz Joined: 02/26/2014 Posts: 664 Oxnard Sunsets IV.3	It's always painful to cut a 14 pot pitcher, but he'll never reach his potential unless he stay in the minors until he's 27 (1 SI in 4updates) and I needed a roster spot. I hate latin pool sometimes, hope to find someone similar but younger next season

#41596	11/08/2016 9:57:50 am
mikkoredsox Joined: 03/29/2015 Posts: 116 Inactive	I claimed a 12 POT pitcher with an exceptional curveball. Obvious reliever. I don't quite want to chuck him, but I don't know who else to drop. Some candidates: Griffiths: Nothing spectacular in his report, high stamina. Morse: Looks very underwhelming, but I've got invested time in him. Any other suggestions are welcome. What do you think? Thank you. Updated Tuesday, November 8 2016 @ 9:58:22 am PST

#41601	11/08/2016 1:43:30 pm
amalric7 Joined: 01/20/2016 Posts: 2260 New York Lancers IV.2	Bannon has been cut by five teams already this season! I see your point though, might be worth it if you have the patience. I think he'll be better than Morse, so that would be my cut.

#41626	11/09/2016 7:05:41 pm
JJNZ Joined: 12/09/2014 Posts: 1601 Yakima Monster III.3	Bannon appears to be a guy with a big future, Morse looks like replacement level at best IMHO.

#41793	11/14/2016 3:30:52 am
MukilteoMike Joined: 08/09/2014 Posts: 3294 Inactive	http://brokenbat.org/player/87414 It isn't exactly painful cutting Toca. What hurts is what might have been. I thought he was going to be one of my best pitchers; that simply didn't happen. He had 14 potential and topped out at a ridiculously low 99 SI. Ouch. He had one killer year, 2027, where he went 12-4 with 15 saves and a 3.21 ERA, and that was in II, our highest level ever. That season's ERA is 1.52 lower than his career number, while, strangely, his FIP was .63 higher than his career average. It doesn't make sense, but that's Toca. I could use his almost mediocre stuff in the bullpen to help the ARC (Avoid Relegation Cause), but he has no place in our future so we're dismissing him now. Updated Monday, November 14 2016 @ 3:32:41 am PST

#42432	12/01/2016 7:52:39 pm
buffmckagan Joined: 12/22/2013 Posts: 658 Scranton Bears Legends	Time to revive this thread: I think it is time I part with Julian Garza. He's really been losing it the last two or so years, and he's just not what he used to be defensively (the 3B starts this year were accidental). He's also the last player on the roster before I took it over, which makes this a hard release. I don't want to pay his salary for subpar offense and average defense. He has just been pretty underwhelming his entire career considering he had a 16 pot.

#42548	12/03/2016 10:44:47 pm
newtman Joined: 11/02/2013 Posts: 3343 Inactive	Wrote a press release for this one: Today Aaron Doyle was released from the Raleigh Braves roster to make room for rising stars, after his skills saw continued decline over the off-season. Doyle was the last Brave to be drafted prior to newtman taking over the team ownership before the 2017 season. Doyle was crucial to lifting the team all the way from LL VI to the cusp of Legends, but unfortunately never will get to see that highest stage as he announced his retirement just after he was released. "I was drafted as a Brave, and I'm retiring as a Brave," Doyle commented. Doyle made the Raleigh record books in several categories, but will probably best be remembered for competing for league home run titles with teammate Randolph during the golden years of Raleigh baseball. Updated Saturday, December 3 2016 @ 10:45:09 pm PST

#43195	12/21/2016 8:00:54 pm
xLee227 Joined: 07/06/2015 Posts: 269 Inactive	It's a little early to be making these kind of decisions, but what do guys think about Pacheco versus Ramirez?Do you think there is a clear candidate to drop? Both of them are veteran one "out" pitch guys (15+ control with 15+ in one pitch) who are currently in middle relief roles but also serve as insurance in case one of my young setup pitchers/closer falter Here are my thoughts on Pacheco: + Cheaper (1.65M vs 4.65M) + Has a secondary pitch (14 CoS) that isn't completely useless + Has experience closing last season - That closing experience didn't go too well (29/35 in save opportunities for 2029, removed from closer role) - Meddling track record (4.63 ERA in LL3 [107 inning sample]) And on Ramirez: + Better track record of success in higher LL (LL2 all-star in 2027) + Better one "out" pitch attributes (17 CoS/18 Control vs 16Mov/15 Control) - Solely a one-pitch guy with only 9 velocity and 10 movement - Already have a LHS in the pen - Very overpriced for a middle relief guy (almost 5 million for a depth arm?) I am open to other suggestions on someone to cut from my team, though! Minors are here if you want to take a look as well.

#43199	12/22/2016 12:04:34 am
MukilteoMike Joined: 08/09/2014 Posts: 3294 Inactive	I think both are expendable, so I'd cut one of them instead of a youngster. You have plenty of lefties and pitchers to cover innings, so I'd just go with who you think is best. I think the better of the two is Pacheco by a narrow margin. Also, that "bad" closer season of 29/35 isn't bad at all, and the season before that he was 16/19. Finally, as you stated, Pacheco is considerably cheaper. I only consider that if I can't make a decision; in this case it would be the last item to help me push Ramirez out. Disclosure--I'm in your division, but those are my honest opinions.

#43204	12/22/2016 10:58:19 am
brentswagger Joined: 03/22/2016 Posts: 265 Lakeville Bears IV.2	Ramirez would be the easier cut for me. Overpriced older guy with no real role for you.

#43234	12/23/2016 9:20:17 am
GrizzlyDan Joined: 06/30/2016 Posts: 199 Atlanta Braves VI.5	Oh, the pain. The game recommends Tomas Contreras for promotion to the bigs. The main candidate for a cut is Masao Yamamoto, my overachieving placeholder of an 11 POT. But I would be losing 12 dev points for the increase of one POT on a player two years younger. I know, ideally both should be gone because they are sub-13, but those options don't exist. Ideas?

#43246	12/23/2016 2:06:04 pm
amalric7 Joined: 01/20/2016 Posts: 2260 New York Lancers IV.2	@xLee - yep, have to agree with Mike, both could go but if you had to cut one for me its Ramirez. @GrizzlyDan - I think both guys are pretty average. There's not much upside to Contreras either but he should be the better pitcher of the two. Updated Friday, December 23 2016 @ 2:06:24 pm PST

#43418	12/30/2016 5:55:50 am
amalric7 Joined: 01/20/2016 Posts: 2260 New York Lancers IV.2	Roster crunch in full effect. 2B: I cut Olivas last night because he although he was probably the best fielder of he, Vallejo and Gaytan he was also the weakest hitter and after signing a better bat than all of them in Fisher I had to clear a spot. Fisher won't play 2B even though his fielding numbers have been decent, and I've obviously played Vallejo most of this season before giving Gaytan and Olivas a try this week - all much of a muchness. 3B: Ortiz is off to a slow start but obviously there's no worries here. I tend to play Berger wherever there's a hole and preferably at DH to give others DIS. Valenzuela is my backup 3B/OF and he's a pretty extreme no-average/all-power hitter. Waters and Norton are nominally 3Bs who are actually my catchers. And then Kennedy got the nod today. After last night's cut and today's C&R draft pick I'm still at 49 players, but this logjam looks a bit messy and I doubt I'll get playing time for everyone. Thoughts/advics?

#43422	12/30/2016 6:47:28 am
garfscores Joined: 10/13/2014 Posts: 491 Battle Creek Sting III.4	Vallejo and Valenzuela are the two worst if you ask me. Your 25 year old in AAA, Gaytan, is your long term 2B and you have 7 different 3B options Valenzuela being by far the worst in my opinion. I would have tried to train one of them at C. Norton is a nice backup catcher in addition to having 3b. Updated Friday, December 30 2016 @ 6:48:32 am PST Updated Friday, December 30 2016 @ 6:49:04 am PST

#43425	12/30/2016 7:34:00 am
xLee227 Joined: 07/06/2015 Posts: 269 Inactive	I agree with garfscores on Valenzuela, he reminds me of Justin Smoak, which isn't a good thing haha. If you are concerned about having a backup 3B, I think Kennedy can adequately cover the position in an emergency situation, not to mention the ton of third basemen playing elsewhere in your lineup right now. About your second basemen, I would consider Fischer to be purely a DH/1B type. With Vallejo, I don't think he will grow much more, if at all, especially since he only has 45 at bats in AAA, and just a single season in AA (after needing 2.5 in single-A). I am not too high on Gaytan either, he doesn't seem like he will hit his maximum potential considering he only has 88 SI at age 25. He only gained 4 SI last season and it looks like he wasn't recommended for the majors before his age-25 auto-recommend. Between the two of them, I'd cut Vallejo first but I would hesitate to make Gaytan my long-term solution at second base.

#43429	12/30/2016 8:29:52 am
amalric7 Joined: 01/20/2016 Posts: 2260 New York Lancers IV.2	Thanks guys for confirming my worst fears. Vallejo hasn't come close to being a serviceable 2B, being below average in all areas. Which was why I brought in Olivas and Gaytan, although because they were similar in age/development/SI I decided to drop one. Maybe I should have just cut Vallejo and gone with the other two. Fisher was brought in purely for his bat at 1B/DH, given he hit 38HR each of the last two seasons and my power guys have tailed off. Its a position I continue to scout FA/waivers to improve, but for now I think I'll run Gaytan out there full time. I have a soft spot for Valenzuela, which is where I'm probably going wrong. I've noticed some guys with high PD don't draw as many walks if their BC is low, and his 19 POW isn't much use if you can never hit the damn ball. He's a good defender at 3B with all that, but his numbers don't lie. I picked up Valenzuela at age 25, Berger just last season, and Kennedy was a FA pickup in 2028. Any of them can play C in a pinch, all have the Arm for it and nothing else matters, so training isn't hugely important. But other than C/1B/3B/DH they can't really play anywhere else (Valenzuela's 12 Range isn't ideal in the OF). Ortiz and Waters were already on the team when I started and it wasn't until I figured out the game more that I moved Waters to C. Same with Norton when I picked him up as a FA in 2027 - which is why I haven't trained anyone else there (bar my lefty Moran in AA). But yeah, looks like Vallejo & Valenzuela will be first in line for cuts.

#43471	12/31/2016 3:52:21 am
amalric7 Joined: 01/20/2016 Posts: 2260 New York Lancers IV.2	Vallejo was cut last night, but Valenzuela went 3-for-5 with 2 doubles and a homer in two games last night so gets a stay of execution (for now). Gaytan went 0-for-whatever but at least played the field okay. But I brought back Olivas and also landed a proper all-round 2B in Dean, both off waivers. Need to find a cut now.

#43483	12/31/2016 9:04:24 am
Benchwarmer Joined: 01/06/2015 Posts: 445 Inactive	Had to cut my aging DH today, he just wasn't up to the task at LL IV which I moved up to this season. The only reason I kept him around was for his bat, and I figured I had some younger guys that would fill that role as well or better. He might still have some life left in LL VI. http://brokenbat.org/player/76325

#43485	12/31/2016 11:54:11 am
garfscores Joined: 10/13/2014 Posts: 491 Battle Creek Sting III.4	@amalric- I'd say Heath , the 25 year old in AAA. I know he'll be a nice bullpen piece, but he's prob your worst minor league guy, and he's pretty far away from hitting his SI cap.

#43516	01/01/2017 1:52:26 pm
amalric7 Joined: 01/20/2016 Posts: 2260 New York Lancers IV.2	I cut Heath last night, then won a 25-yo 13 POT pitcher on waivers. Looking for another cut, will it be Valenzuela?

#43544	01/02/2017 4:59:26 pm
amalric7 Joined: 01/20/2016 Posts: 2260 New York Lancers IV.2	And Valenzuela has gone. Lopez may well be next, he sucks, and he's one of a few guys I'm getting fed up with: I've only played him in the Cup and the one time my starting SS got injured.

#43632	01/05/2017 6:18:08 am
amalric7 Joined: 01/20/2016 Posts: 2260 New York Lancers IV.2	The culls continue. Olivas came and went again. I've lost patience with the under-development and poor performance of these guys and instead picked up five veterans averaging over $4M salary because they can produce. Money isn't an issue. I'm in position to challenge for the title this season and I'm not about to waste it (again). Lopez never came close to the hype, certainly not what I hoped for when I picked him up. Would have been okay if he could have fielded SS reasonably well but couldn't even manage that, too many errors and not enough DP. The bat was terrible. Moody went yesterday. One of the players I inherited, just five left now. Only part of his profile he lived up to was his poor fielding, making him a liability even at 1B. Had a good BB:K ratio but still didn't walk enough to make up for the disappointing bat. Vallejo, Valenzuela, Heath have all gone. Couple of the young guys might struggle for some PT but the upside isn't huge anyway, and winning games will allow greater flexibility. Onwards and (hopefully) upwards.

#44131	01/20/2017 11:32:28 am
Seca Joined: 05/05/2014 Posts: 5230 Waterloo Dinosaurs Legends	When I inherited the Dinos they were an old team. I tried to patch with free agents, but it didn't work. A full rebuild was done. Brought in a bunch of "too old for the minors" guys, many of whom did well. Only 2 players of the inherited minor leaguers were kept. Only 1 of those made an impact on the roster (some scrub named Hardy). The minors also had to be rebuilt. I tried to work from the middle out, while recognizing the importance of defense. A couple of months apart during the 2018 season I was able to acquire Baez (a 1/2 claim!) and Anderson (a 1/8 claim iirc). These two went on to become the backbone of the team (especially because my plans at 2B went terribly, terribly wrong). Neither looks like much offensively, but Anderson won a Legends batting title in 2025, can hold his own against lefties, and is the only guy on my team with a nickname (earned by the way he helped the team dodge bullets during our 2026 Cup run). Baez hits .230 and strikes out a ton, but almost always finds a way to drive in 50 while hitting at the bottom of the order. Had the RISP stat come along sooner, I suspect that number would jump off his player card. Anyway. All 3 position players I have at AAA are ready for callups. This is going to put Anderson and Baez out of jobs earlier than I expected. It makes me sad. I can't make changes this season with the team doing well. Axe likely to fall next spring. Will enjoy the final few months and Anderson and Baez.

#48296	04/23/2017 10:46:31 am
Brewnoe Joined: 03/25/2014 Posts: 829 Fall River Naughty Dawgs III.3	It's getting close to next gen time. Scooter Chase One of my first big waiver wins, easily the 2nd best second baseman in franchise history. He lost his fielding spot right around the All-star break this year. Next year the DH spot has to turn to Jesse "Jesse" We'll miss you Scooter.

#48307	04/23/2017 8:23:06 pm
Seca Joined: 05/05/2014 Posts: 5230 Waterloo Dinosaurs Legends	Scooter Chase sounds like a Golden Girls episode.

#48329	04/24/2017 1:59:01 pm
Brewnoe Joined: 03/25/2014 Posts: 829 Fall River Naughty Dawgs III.3	That thought did occur to me more than once. I didn't want to start down the slope that would inevitably lead to .. (Brockmire-voice) Playboy's Women of Walmart.

#49229	05/17/2017 2:27:17 pm
allen54chevy Joined: 11/22/2015 Posts: 475 Inactive	Need to trim my manor league pitchers. I have a whole bunch of guys come up at the same time...someone is not going to make it through april :/

#49238	05/17/2017 9:18:43 pm
Rock777 Joined: 09/21/2014 Posts: 9790 Haverhill Halflings Legends	Dang it I want to play in the manor leagues! How do I get in? Updated Wednesday, May 17 2017 @ 9:19:49 pm PDT

#49265	05/18/2017 7:01:39 pm
allen54chevy Joined: 11/22/2015 Posts: 475 Inactive	Heh -oops. I would guess the "manor league" as that place in between majors and minors, where players could go when they learned all they can learn in AAA but do not have an open roster spot available for them.

#49266	05/18/2017 8:41:27 pm
Rock777 Joined: 09/21/2014 Posts: 9790 Haverhill Halflings Legends	I see. I thought it was a league exclusive to people who live in manors (which I suppose would just make it the major leagues).

#49878	06/04/2017 10:57:05 pm
MukilteoMike Joined: 08/09/2014 Posts: 3294 Inactive	I'm posting here because I don't really know where to put this strange cut, which wasn't mine by the way. The cut wasn't strange; in fact, I would think it would be super easy. What's bizarre is the price the system has put on his head. Would someone please explain how in the world this guy has a salary over $4 million? He's a below average hitter from level VI. Every once in a while I see figures that make no sense and this is definitely one of those.

#49885	06/05/2017 3:14:12 pm
newtman Joined: 11/02/2013 Posts: 3343 Inactive	@Mike, maybe the one AB he got in Legends three seasons ago? Should find out if that was the case next season when it will be four seasons behind him.

#49886	06/05/2017 5:01:08 pm
Garnash1970 Joined: 08/07/2014 Posts: 199 Inactive	@Mike - I suspect its because he's a SS. I've noticed even poor hitting SSs get hit hard on salary.

#49895	06/05/2017 8:36:34 pm
newtman Joined: 11/02/2013 Posts: 3343 Inactive	Mine never do, and they hit better than his... it isn't the position.

#49909	06/06/2017 2:20:42 pm
Mesh77 Joined: 10/25/2016 Posts: 145 Palo Alto Invaders V.15	Yes, the one downside to giving slightly under-developed players as much playing time as you can, is that their salaries skyrocket with success - especially the success they're likely to have down here in LLVI. Holmes was an easy cut this season, given his slow start and his $3.9M salary (way too much for LLVI). His slash line for the best part of two seasons is around .265/.354/.394 and he played decent defense at SS with a decent defensive SI profile. Runs scored is a product of the team around him, but is it really worth a spike of $3.4M in two seasons? Atkins was cut at the same time. Much easier to see his salary rise from $0.5M to $5.15M in the same time period given his terrific hitting and on-base skills. Salary had to be slashed even at this early stage, and I do have replacements. But what is Paredes going to spike to next season? What of Romero and Ruud who are already getting up there? Jumping up for a shot at Legends for a season and a half probably cost this team promotion last season, and San Luis Obispo look really strong thus far, so might have more painful cuts ahead.

#49912	06/06/2017 4:34:53 pm
MukilteoMike Joined: 08/09/2014 Posts: 3294 Inactive	Atkins at least deserved the salary increase. I don't know your money situation, but releasing a 27 year old with an OPS over 900 has to be painful. I would have bent over backwards to work out something to keep him.

#49915	06/06/2017 5:48:51 pm
Seca Joined: 05/05/2014 Posts: 5230 Waterloo Dinosaurs Legends	Mine never do, and they hit better than his ... it isn't the position. What did you pay Kennedy? Izq. is making 2.6, and he is homegrown. Where would he be w/o the hometown discount? There seem to be a number of factors in there. Position is definitely one of them.

#49917	06/06/2017 9:37:36 pm
newtman Joined: 11/02/2013 Posts: 3343 Inactive	Kennedy was paid 4.8 mil for one season shortly after arriving in Raleigh with time spent in Legends shortly beforehand. His salary plummeted from there dropping from 4.8 mil to 2.85 mil the very next season. Raleigh shortstops don't get paid. My highest salary players are usually catchers, first basemen, second basemen, or outfielders. Of course those were the positions with my best talent. Edit: Although Kennedy had the highest peak, my highest paid shortstop was really Kirby. Updated Tuesday, June 6 2017 @ 9:40:43 pm PDT

#49918	06/07/2017 12:32:45 am
Favuz Joined: 02/26/2014 Posts: 664 Oxnard Sunsets IV.3	i agree with Seca. In my experience, position count towards salary. Infielders (especially SS) and Catchers get paid more than 1B or OF, when production (runs, rbis, OPS) is roughly the same.

#49919	06/07/2017 1:52:00 am
Favuz Joined: 02/26/2014 Posts: 664 Oxnard Sunsets IV.3	So, i am deciding cut for next friday ( i have full roster). I have 4-5 candidates, people with bad builds, perennial reserves on major roster, closers with 8+ era, then i remembered i have Hough. He has a wonderful build for a Catcher, and my current starter is 29, so he is his natural replacement. But after 4 seasons with the team, he's still in A, with a medium gain of 3.5 Si an year. So, 99% i'll release him, because he will never reach his cap. Drafting a 23 yo from international pool or 21 yo from latin is frustrating, because 95% he'll never pan out, but a 17 from high school is even worse. Some guys just don't pan out (like in real life though)

#49922	06/07/2017 6:36:33 am
Mesh77 Joined: 10/25/2016 Posts: 145 Palo Alto Invaders V.15	Atkins at least deserved the salary increase. I don't know your money situation, but releasing a 27 year old with an OPS over 900 has to be painful. I would have bent over backwards to work out something to keep him. Total revenue has averaged $38M over the last three seasons. Major league player salaries for this season alone were $42M, minors salaries another $5M. I have the balance to take the hit, but with 14 hitters already on the ML roster and 2/3 guys on the borderline for call-ups cuts had to be made - may as well make the expensive ones. Down to $31M for ML salaries now.

#49923	06/07/2017 6:41:55 am
amalric7 Joined: 01/20/2016 Posts: 2260 New York Lancers IV.2	@Favuz - I know you have a ton of hitters, and I have a feeling I've mentioned this before, but Tygart would be my first choice for a cut, not much to look at there. Hough may be a slow starter, I've seen a bunch of guys start slow and then gain 7-8 SI per season at higher levels, sometimes more. Porkins looks like a similar player though he was a college draftee I picked up off waivers a few days ago. I'm hoping he grows quickly, too early to tell.

#49925	06/07/2017 7:07:14 am
Favuz Joined: 02/26/2014 Posts: 664 Oxnard Sunsets IV.3	@Amalric Tygart is 2nd on my list indeed, because he's nothing more than spot starter/long reliever in an high level team, and i have a ton of better pitchers than him in minors. He's more an insurance if Franco or Moran don't pan out. Franco was drafted at 19 and he's still on track but this year haven't gained a single SI. Moran is 1 and 1/2 year that he's still in rookie. He's stil 18 but this is Always not a good sign. If they don't both pan out i could use him, while as a C i have an Emergency plan in Renteria (he would be better as an OF but i have other guys suited for OF, while he can be a decent C). Tough decisions Updated Wednesday, June 7 2017 @ 7:07:41 am PDT

#49929	06/07/2017 7:44:26 am
newtman Joined: 11/02/2013 Posts: 3343 Inactive	@Favuz, maybe position does count, but if you look at my shortstops I have had (and currently have), I would say that position counts FAR less than production AND league level. My estimate based on over twenty seasons of shortstop pay (I platooned at SS for several seasons), is that it is 40% LL, 30% production, 20% other, and 10% position. That is just a guess with no way to substantiate it, but I am not buying Seca and your idea that SS get inflated salaries, when none of my data from 16 seasons of playing show that to be the case.

#49931	06/07/2017 8:03:18 am
Favuz Joined: 02/26/2014 Posts: 664 Oxnard Sunsets IV.3	Position isn't the first parameter in calculate salary, that's for sure. LL counts more than everythig else, production is in clear and uncontested 2nd place. Production, however, count not only by OPS but also with number of AB/IP/Saves (and subsequent increase in R/RBI/K etc.). After that, position counts (at least that's what i've observed in my team). You've got Johnny Kirby as starter in SS for several years, he went up to 4.10 million. Izquierdo is your highest paid bat, even with hometown discount and despite his sub .700 production. He's paid more than Thomason, who is younger for sure, but has been way better offensively in last 2 year (even won a MVP) but he's playing 1B/DH. Overall, i think that position counts, of course not as much as other things we discussed in this thread.

#49938	06/07/2017 2:00:11 pm
MukilteoMike Joined: 08/09/2014 Posts: 3294 Inactive	If league level and stats are far and away the most significant, then Holmes makes no sense. LL 6 and below average equals $4 million. Stats and LL should be the dominant factors, but there must be some weird force hidden in there.

#49939	06/07/2017 2:21:46 pm
Philliesworld Joined: 10/17/2014 Posts: 829 Pierre Jacobins Legends	, but there must be some weird force hidden in there. And there should be. Some player's agents (if they have agents in BB) just drive much harder bargains.

#49940	06/07/2017 3:22:53 pm
MukilteoMike Joined: 08/09/2014 Posts: 3294 Inactive	Sure, there can be a small, reasonable variance. Ten, fifteen, twenty percent pure randomness, fine. That guy I mentioned is overpriced by at least 100%. Completely perplexing.

#49941	06/07/2017 3:32:37 pm
Philliesworld Joined: 10/17/2014 Posts: 829 Pierre Jacobins Legends	Yeah, Holmes is on the extreme side.

#49947	06/07/2017 4:44:27 pm
newtman Joined: 11/02/2013 Posts: 3343 Inactive	@Mike, no, Holmes does make sense. 2029 was only three seasons ago, and he got an AB in Legends that season. I have mentioned this several times when he has been brought up, but it always gets conveniently ignored. @Favuz, fair enough, maybe position is third, but Thomason is a really bad example because my bet is that he will cost more than Iz next season. Thomason won the MVP in his third full season last year, his big jump will be next season or the year after.

#49949	06/07/2017 11:36:51 pm
MukilteoMike Joined: 08/09/2014 Posts: 3294 Inactive	Newtman, you're right. Your comment was totally ignored because it was one at bat in Legends. I think the AI ignores that just as much as me. Now, had he had gotten a hit, producing ridiculous lines of BA/OBP/SLG/OPS, then it might influence salary. I don't think one hitless at bat in Legends does anything.

#49968	06/08/2017 8:32:00 am
newtman Joined: 11/02/2013 Posts: 3343 Inactive	@Mike, but ridiculous lines are tied to production. Find a player that has played in Legends who's salary didn't go crazy then I will admit that I am wrong.

#49969	06/08/2017 9:52:49 am
MukilteoMike Joined: 08/09/2014 Posts: 3294 Inactive	The very first player I looked at to compare Holmes to was Rubio of Birmingham who also plays shortstop. Holmes' first year consisted of 63 games and 201 AB in LL 4 plus one game without an at bat in Legends. We'll consider Rubio's "first year" his first two combined since they add up to 50 games and 160 AB. They both had full seasons for years two and three, with the difference being Rubio played in Legends and Holmes in LL 6. Here are their stats for those first three years: Holmes 357 G-1261 AB-208 R-22 HR-146 RBI-253/339/474/814 Rubio 348 G-1365 AB-180 R-40 HR-203 RBI-248/309/549/858 Again, Holmes had half a season in LL 4 and the two full seasons in LL 6 plus one game in Legends without an at bat. All of Rubio's career has been in Legends. Holmes generated a salary at that point of $3.9 million. Rubio $3.1 million. Take away the home grown deduction for Rubio and you have virtually the same salary, which is total nonsense. I also think it's evident that one measly appearance in Legends is most definitely not the reason Holmes has a ridiculous salary because Rubio played in Legends the whole time. Updated Thursday, June 8 2017 @ 10:30:40 am PDT

#49972	06/08/2017 10:59:45 am
MukilteoMike Joined: 08/09/2014 Posts: 3294 Inactive	Weird. I've been looking at different players on Legends teams. Some salaries jump like crazy, others don't. The more I look, the less I understand. I guess I should stop looking.

#49985	06/08/2017 11:03:54 pm
allen54chevy Joined: 11/22/2015 Posts: 475 Inactive	I hate to cut a young pitcher. I need to cut a pitcher. I hate to cut a 14pot but this might be the one.

#49986	06/09/2017 12:11:33 am
Favuz Joined: 02/26/2014 Posts: 664 Oxnard Sunsets IV.3	Well, you must have a nice bucn hof pitcher if you don't have nothing worse than him to cut . He has not the best build, he's lefty and has a lot of fielding points, but overall he doesn't seem too bad

#49995	06/09/2017 5:31:34 am
allen54chevy Joined: 11/22/2015 Posts: 475 Inactive	Do you have any other suggestions? I also thought about Sonny as his stats kindof stink Id like to bring Vince up from AAA. It looks like he is turning into a good build.

#50059	06/10/2017 12:00:02 am
MukilteoMike Joined: 08/09/2014 Posts: 3294 Inactive	I finally pulled the plug on my uber utility player. I had high hopes for him being a jack of all trades. While he can do everything to fair standards, he isn't good at anything. That is especially true regarding hitting. Still, it's difficult cutting him loose. It was nice knowing he could be a backup at every position, but he isn't good enough to ever demand non-emergent appearances. I'm sure someone else will have a greater need for him. Good luck.

#50078	06/10/2017 2:36:41 pm
Brewnoe Joined: 03/25/2014 Posts: 829 Fall River Naughty Dawgs III.3	Bout to toss my own Brock Holt Might shove him in a couple games to fill so he has 1 at CF/RF/C first ... Updated Saturday, June 10 2017 @ 2:37:02 pm PDT

#50555	06/29/2017 8:32:39 am
Seca Joined: 05/05/2014 Posts: 5230 Waterloo Dinosaurs Legends	I haven't had much luck with left handed pitchers. Developing Booth cost me this season. I'm paying Luque 1.55 million to be a loogy with a 3.00 WHIP and a 12.4 FIP. Gallindo was putrid. Zappa was the best of the bunch, and he was only good 1 season out of every 4. Brings me to Bianchi. He's got basically the same scouting as all those guys listed above. He looks very much like a player who will get to 103-104 SI and slam on the brakes. The little voice inside my head told me Booth would be a self inflicted wound, and is screaming at me to cut Bianchi before I do it all over again. But is sucks to ditch a 1st round pick who has sat in the minors 5 seasons just as he's ready. Maybe he's the one whose got "it" and can overcome being a meh control southpaw?

#50585	06/30/2017 3:51:47 am
MukilteoMike Joined: 08/09/2014 Posts: 3294 Inactive	I got an amazing pick last round! That is, amazing for round seven. As a result, there's no room for round eight or any waiver claims. Either he needs or this young arm from round three needs to empty his locker. Which one should it be? Also, I don't care about one being a left-handed thrower and the other being a righty. I have enough of both sides throwing in the minors to not be concerned about that. I simply want to keep whoever will be the better of the two. Yes, it will take a miracle for them to stay with me until fully developed, but you never know.

#50586	06/30/2017 4:03:14 am
Haselrig Joined: 04/13/2014 Posts: 2812 Novi Doubledays IV.8	Lopez is great until I got to the control issue. Tapia's a little old, but looks like he could be a good reliever. Neither is a bad prospect, but I don't keep guys with control issues, so I'd cut Lopez.

#51514	07/25/2017 7:00:19 am
occham Joined: 11/07/2011 Posts: 258 Inactive	Yesterday, I released two time league MVP Fabián Bernal Today, Cy Young winner Takeo Sakei Cold truth - we didn't promote with them and even if we promote this year, they're winding out too fast to be part of the future. Boo. Both have places in the Frog's Hall of Fame. They will be missed.

#53870	10/07/2017 9:53:43 am
Cactusguy21 Joined: 07/25/2017 Posts: 815 Presque Isle Vikings V.15	http://brokenbat.org/player/111773 Berrios was an absolute star in my first season as a manager, but he's really old now and I want to see what Porter and Schmidt can do at catcher. But I just can't convince myself to do it (partially because I know that Porter and Schmidt will stink). AARGH. Please convince me to drop him. Also, should I cut Pate? I've got young guys behind him to take his place, and he's had a terrible career, but that scouting is so awesome I just keep praying that he's due to have a season more in line with his stats. Updated Saturday, October 7 2017 @ 12:43:52 pm PDT

#55292	10/30/2017 5:52:30 am	Apr 18th, 2034
AssumedPseudonym Joined: 10/26/2016 Posts: 1138 Deerfield Beach Rats VI.13	I really hated this one, but with Madrigal finally up and ready to take over, I couldn’t justify paying Matìj Černý over two million a year to mostly sit on the bench, especially while I have a perennial All Star at first base and a rejuvenated DH who just went absolutely nuts last season, and especially especially not while I have an expensive payroll that’s going to see me lose money this season. x.x

#55294	10/30/2017 7:07:05 am	Apr 18th, 2034
wickersty Joined: 05/11/2017 Posts: 1007 Deadwood Perambulators V.2	@AP I don't remember if I've ever noticed a player with no positive hitting comment (i.e., he doesn't have Good Hitter) reaching 15 Hitting. Maybe it happens more often, but I've never noticed it. I thought having a "Good Hitter" scouting comment was a prerequisite for reaching 15 (or even 14) Hitting.

#55303	10/30/2017 4:21:26 pm	Apr 19th, 2034
Alyksandur Joined: 07/19/2017 Posts: 233 Boca Raton Gryphons III.4	Wickersty: He Huang is another one. Maybe it's just a catcher thing (even if he doesn't know he's a catcher yet)…

#55527	11/05/2017 6:32:50 am	May 10th, 2034
Noodle Joined: 02/15/2016 Posts: 172 Inactive	http://brokenbat.org/player/82509 By far the best position player in franchise history. 1st in hits, doubles, hr, rbo, and game mvp. I hate to cut him, but at 34 he is in serious decline. The good news is that he becomes my first player inducted in the HOF. Updated Sunday, November 5 2017 @ 6:35:51 am PST

#55773	11/11/2017 3:17:33 pm	Jun 1st, 2034
Noodle Joined: 02/15/2016 Posts: 172 Inactive	A week after pulling the plug on my best position player, I just had to do the same with my best pitcher the franchise has ever had. http://brokenbat.org/player/90079 At 34 he has completely lost it. It's a shame because he was money in his prime. Updated Tuesday, November 14 2017 @ 4:05:55 pm PST Updated Tuesday, November 14 2017 @ 4:06:33 pm PST

#62599	01/17/2019 7:59:31 pm	May 3rd, 2039
Brewnoe Joined: 03/25/2014 Posts: 829 Fall River Naughty Dawgs III.3	<necro-bump now that I found the right thread> The Dawgs are almost ready to drop a 9x National-teamer - Espen "The Ocho" Bijl When asked for comment, Alfonzo "Doesn't" Mata just repeated his catch-phrase. PS. Glad I wasn't posting from a phone, the Otto-suggest before I added "necro" to the dictionary was offensive

#63137	02/16/2019 6:35:43 am	Aug 21st, 2039
wuggla Joined: 05/10/2013 Posts: 1062 Colorado Springs Vultures V.14	Released 2 pitchers. Get them on waivers. September deadline is close.

#63663	03/10/2019 6:49:42 am	Jan 15th, 2040
Seca Joined: 05/05/2014 Posts: 5230 Waterloo Dinosaurs Legends	I'm overloaded at DH. Curious what you would do with these guys: Stern: - good hit tool, power and speed - swings down, more doubles than HRs - RHB, historically hasn't done as well against RHP (reverse splits last year tho) - bad last season - still showing signs of growth - fairly big salary Tuero: - more modest hit tool - good power, upper cut swing. Should produce HRs. - bad, bad speed - switch hitter; showed a split last season, but could be noise - good last season (roty) - 200 ABs last season, +0 SI; could be capped out - cheap salary

#63664	03/10/2019 7:10:13 am	Jan 15th, 2040
Haselrig Joined: 04/13/2014 Posts: 2812 Novi Doubledays IV.8	If they were both on my roster right now? I'd keep Stern. Tuero's looking like he won't get to his scouted hitting. That'd be the decider for me. Salary wouldn't play too much of a role as an offset.

#63666	03/10/2019 7:22:59 am	Jan 15th, 2040
lostraven Joined: 07/02/2016 Posts: 1291 Corvallis Ravens II.1	@Seca Tough decision. As someone who has never given 11 Pots much a chance after I got out LLIV, I probably have some inherent bias against Tuero. That said, an additional consideration about Tuero: he's shown at both the Majors and minor leagues that he's taking a walk at very close to one in every 10 at-bats; Stern is nowhere near that ballpark. I.e., if you value the OBP of Tuero over the speed of Stern, you go with Tuero.

#63669	03/10/2019 8:10:55 am	Jan 15th, 2040
amalric7 Joined: 01/20/2016 Posts: 2260 New York Lancers IV.2	I'd cut both. "Oh wait, division rival..." I'd keep both. Joking aside I'd usually favour Tuero, a flyball hitter with better plate discipline, over Stern, a groundball hitter with no plate discipline. The former should hit homers and less GIDP, but seeing as he appears to have capped out I'd probably cut my losses (like @lostraven I rarely even look at 11 POTs). I don't like Stern at all. I don't like guys with low PD, and those that do better have good hitting, BC and power. Of course, I say all that and I have to find playing time starting now for Donahue and Siegl. But hey, you work with what you have!

#63670	03/10/2019 8:22:57 am	Jan 15th, 2040
Haselrig Joined: 04/13/2014 Posts: 2812 Novi Doubledays IV.8	I was dead last in the league in walks last season as well as the worst GB/FB after Bloomington. Hitting trumps everything for me

#63675	03/10/2019 1:54:23 pm	Jan 15th, 2040
Rock777 Joined: 09/21/2014 Posts: 9790 Haverhill Halflings Legends	Tuero looks like he is being under-evaluated (and possibly under-scouted to boot). I suspect his Hitting is higher than shown. Definitely a hard choice. Hard to say no to Tuero's minor league OPS. Also hard to say no to Legends Rookie of the Year.

#63676	03/10/2019 2:05:38 pm	Jan 15th, 2040
MukilteoMike Joined: 08/09/2014 Posts: 3294 Inactive	As I mentioned last season, I'm not a fan of Stern. I can't quite figure out his appeal. I suppose it's the 22 HRs in '38, but I'm not sold those are legit. I don't care that Tuero has 11 potential, he looks okay. It's puzzling that he isn't cranking out a few more homers. If he starts sending a few more over the fences, he'll be pretty good. The unfortunate thing about him is that he's strictly a DH/emergency LF. Updated Sunday, March 10 2019 @ 2:13:44 pm PDT

#63677	03/10/2019 2:33:05 pm	Jan 15th, 2040
Seca Joined: 05/05/2014 Posts: 5230 Waterloo Dinosaurs Legends	Well, of the 2 Stern is much less likely to get thrown out trying to score from 1B on a double with 2 out in the bottom of the 9th. Stern's appeal isn't his Mexican league stats. It's that the hitting line on his development graph goes up as a hill, not a staircase. It's feasible he could get to 19 hitting and 17 slugging. That should play with 15 speed, even if his gb:fb is like 1.2. Think he's got the higher ceiling. Also got the lower floor. Minor league stats aren't thrilling, Mexican league stats don't mean much.

#63683	03/11/2019 8:10:39 am	Jan 15th, 2040
lostraven Joined: 07/02/2016 Posts: 1291 Corvallis Ravens II.1	Does McCauley have one more quality season left in him? I don't think I've ever trotted out a 36-year-old.

#63684	03/11/2019 9:46:36 am	Jan 15th, 2040
wickersty Joined: 05/11/2017 Posts: 1007 Deadwood Perambulators V.2	Do it! I mean, damn at that salary and past performance I'd give him chances until he's 40 or proves to be incapable.

#63685	03/11/2019 9:53:57 am	Jan 15th, 2040
Rock777 Joined: 09/21/2014 Posts: 9790 Haverhill Halflings Legends	That's what I am doing with Spaceman. Going to play him until the wheels fall off

#63686	03/11/2019 12:01:08 pm	Jan 15th, 2040
wickersty Joined: 05/11/2017 Posts: 1007 Deadwood Perambulators V.2	I always thought I’d wind up doing that with Contreras but his righty splits last two seasons have been disappointing. And I’m already starting to consider him a lefty platoon at 33. Flynn, however, I’m gonna play til his legs fall off.

#63786	03/16/2019 10:57:05 am	Mar 2nd, 2040
5L1NK Joined: 06/10/2015 Posts: 297 Farmington Hills Cardinals Legends	Don't you just love it when two guys you dropped get picked up by two teams that happen to be in your league this year? Not looking forward to seeing Whitaker strike out my hitters and Cowan slapping the ball off my pitchers Updated Saturday, March 16 2019 @ 10:58:03 am PDT

#63814	03/18/2019 10:10:29 am	Mar 6th, 2040
JoeDaddyeous91 Joined: 01/21/2016 Posts: 62 Kahului Turtles III.1	I feel like Gordon Dillon is the most cutable player on my team right now to allow myself a chance to get waiver claims, plus my future draft picks... I'd hate to see him go though, but OF is not a need for my team.. Thoughts?

#63818	03/18/2019 2:23:39 pm	Mar 6th, 2040
Noodle Joined: 02/15/2016 Posts: 172 Inactive	Joedaddy Dillon looks plenty cutable to me. He going to be an extreme groundball hitter with an empty .280 batting average. (No plate discipline or power)

#63823	03/18/2019 9:14:23 pm	Mar 8th, 2040
JoeDaddyeous91 Joined: 01/21/2016 Posts: 62 Kahului Turtles III.1	Thanks for the input Noodle! Still learning apparently if I missed a plenty cuttable looking player haha.. I just see that great hitting comment and start to drool over it

#63825	03/19/2019 5:52:52 am	Mar 8th, 2040
JoeDaddyeous91 Joined: 01/21/2016 Posts: 62 Kahului Turtles III.1	So, on note of this.. I did cut him.. I cannot find him on waivers today, I can only find him based on my transactions and knowing his player/#... Not sure if this is a bug or not GORDON SEARCH Updated Tuesday, March 19 2019 @ 5:58:37 am PDT

#63826	03/19/2019 6:05:54 am	Mar 8th, 2040
Haselrig Joined: 04/13/2014 Posts: 2812 Novi Doubledays IV.8	I ran across him when I ran waivers this morning. You probably have your search parameters set too broadly and not all the players are being displayed. Try narrowing it down to his age group. By-the-way. He isn't a bad prospect. I'd like to see some more seasons in the minors, but his numbers are solid for his build and scouting report. If he was a lefty hitter, I might have put a claim in to replace Lay.

#63827	03/19/2019 6:21:43 am	Mar 8th, 2040
JoeDaddyeous91 Joined: 01/21/2016 Posts: 62 Kahului Turtles III.1	You're right... I must need to drink more coffee still (facepalm) Ya.. I liked him a lot.. Was thinking he'd have some nice potential as an on base prospect while playing some great defense. I just have to many right handed OFs prospects currently to justify him anymore Lay looks good too, similar to Gordon! I'd prefer his handedness, Gordon would play some better OF, but Lay looks like he'd be the better overall hitter for sure. All depends on how Gordon SI plays out between his BC/PD/POW/FLD

#63828	03/19/2019 6:47:31 am	Mar 8th, 2040
Haselrig Joined: 04/13/2014 Posts: 2812 Novi Doubledays IV.8	I like his bat, but I don't see Lay sticking with me for too long. Little too much baggage for me to be entirely comfortable with him. There's his early promotion, but his build makes him marginal for a spot in the OF even if he'd been promoted correctly. If he's not playing there, then his 15 range is just wasted SI. Gordon's the cleaner of the two. Didn't get promoted early, right build for the OF and his minors numbers all look good.

#63829	03/19/2019 7:08:24 am	Mar 8th, 2040
JoeDaddyeous91 Joined: 01/21/2016 Posts: 62 Kahului Turtles III.1	Ya I was pumped when I got Gordon, albeit the 12 POT. OF has just become such an area of strength for my team at the majors and minors. He's definitely one of those guys I'm gonna bookmark and hope for the best for wherever he ends up

#63975	03/22/2019 5:43:08 pm	Mar 16th, 2040
Rock777 Joined: 09/21/2014 Posts: 9790 Haverhill Halflings Legends	Always painful to cut a 14 POT pitcher, but I honestly can't ever see him being useful

#63976	03/22/2019 6:22:58 pm	Mar 16th, 2040
Brewnoe Joined: 03/25/2014 Posts: 829 Fall River Naughty Dawgs III.3	"Boom Boom" Canepa and Gabriel Jordan were 2/3rds of my outfield for the last decade ... with "Mario" Vitali nearing the end of his run, I'm gonna need to buy a program to tell who's who soon. For now, I threw a claim in on Jesus ... just so I could combine him with Jeronimo next spring for a Duran to the fourth power battery. I haven't cut a 14pot pitcher or a 15pot non-pitcher yet, but I sense the day is coming.

#64305	04/01/2019 2:36:49 pm	Apr 19th, 2040
amalric7 Joined: 01/20/2016 Posts: 2260 New York Lancers IV.2	This guy wasn't a painful cut but I had to post this somewhere - a 106 SI player but just a 12 POT. I think he has always been a 12 POT but any player I've seen go beyond the commonly used SI ranges has also seen his POT increase. Not seen this AFAIK.

#64319	04/01/2019 6:19:45 pm	Apr 21st, 2040
Dan6176 Joined: 04/30/2016 Posts: 254 Inactive	Amalric, Steve tweaked something and over achievers show there original POT. Yesterday, I couldn't see my oldest player's POT, but today I can.

#64718	04/14/2019 10:18:34 am	Jun 4th, 2040
Seca Joined: 05/05/2014 Posts: 5230 Waterloo Dinosaurs Legends	Anybody see any hope for Daniels? My team is desperate for power. Would pain me greatly to cut a guy that hit 30 HRs in a AAA season. Lewis would be getting his ABs in the short term. Not much of an upgrade, but would free a roster spot.

#64719	04/14/2019 10:34:08 am	Jun 4th, 2040
12twelve Joined: 02/05/2017 Posts: 131 Inactive	@Seca Maybe I can offer some thoughts back to you for your help earlier, but I think you should cut him loose. A career .180 hitter with sub-.600 OPS doesn't give you much help, and what speed he has is useless if he's not on the bases. His HR rate in the bigs shows he hasn't done anything with his power. That would be an easier cut for me than what I hesitated with earlier.

#64720	04/14/2019 11:05:46 am	Jun 4th, 2040
MukilteoMike Joined: 08/09/2014 Posts: 3294 Inactive	I think 2036 was unlucky for you regarding Daniels. Remove that season from his past and I think he would have already been cut. I've become a believer in the game creating artificial good/bad seasons for players, largely because too many seasons make no sense otherwise. I think Daniels in 2036 is such an example. I don't know why he's no good, but I don't see much of a future there, especially at the Legends level.

#64721	04/14/2019 11:24:18 am	Jun 4th, 2040
allen54chevy Joined: 11/22/2015 Posts: 475 Inactive	Seca: 422 at bats have yeilded a .214 on base. And he is a 16 range outfielder. I vote that you keep him in the everyday lineup. Bat him lead off and play CF. .... BUT I may be biased. 😉

#64725	04/14/2019 12:31:05 pm	Jun 4th, 2040
Seca Joined: 05/05/2014 Posts: 5230 Waterloo Dinosaurs Legends	Thanks guys. (Not you Allen54Chevy ). I was heading to Daniels room with the axe last night when a 33 yr LH reliever with a .400 opponent BA got in my way. Figured that offered a chance for confirmation. The dream was never 1.000 OPS. I would have been happy with a .220 BA, 8-10 HRs in 150 platoon ABs. That along with decent defence and baserunning would have been enough. Seems that bar is too high. I'm not sure that those good seasons are coded. Might just be random (or if there is an internal form variable, that getting stuck on "awesome" for a while). I definitely have trouble getting away from those players, and completely agree it's 2036 that has kept him around. I do think the reason why he sucks is clear. I've never had luck with 13-14 hit guys in the upper leagues. Even if they have fat BC and PD. Seem to need more hit tool to succeed. Thanks again folks.

#64726	04/14/2019 1:20:13 pm	Jun 4th, 2040
wickersty Joined: 05/11/2017 Posts: 1007 Deadwood Perambulators V.2	@seca I’d have a hard prob overlooking that 30hr aaa season too. Something does seem “broken” with him but I’d probably see it through his year 28 season. I did that with this guy and now he’s only getting at bats against lefties and I don’t know how long he’ll last before I cut him. https://brokenbat.org/player/149430

#64731	04/14/2019 4:35:48 pm	Jun 7th, 2040
Seca Joined: 05/05/2014 Posts: 5230 Waterloo Dinosaurs Legends	Heh. Great hitters are hard to get away from too. Here are two season slash lines as of today's series. One is Daniels. The other is Boyd, my MVP from last season. .228 / .279 / .308 .220 / .314 / .319 Can you tell who is who? Anyway, it seems everyone in my bullpen not named Grasso is a better cut candidate than Daniels. He may be sticking around a bit longer.

#64738	04/15/2019 4:03:51 am	Jun 8th, 2040
Haselrig Joined: 04/13/2014 Posts: 2812 Novi Doubledays IV.8	Starting to get that tickle in the back of my mind about Granados. Might be time, but it's a tough cut.

#64760	04/15/2019 8:59:46 pm	Jun 10th, 2040
allen54chevy Joined: 11/22/2015 Posts: 475 Inactive	Villa is also hitting that 34yr age and not getting time due to younger guys needing at bats. It is hard cause he had a phenomenal season off the bench as a pinch hitter last yr, and costs next to the minimum. However the manager just isnt using him that way this yr and I'm not sure he could hit that well again, nor do I have at bats to give. :/

#64901	04/23/2019 2:56:13 pm	Jul 11th, 2040
Brewnoe Joined: 03/25/2014 Posts: 829 Fall River Naughty Dawgs III.3	Losing a good nick name hurts. (Nick name ... dad thought of it while he was shaving) Here's hoping "Chris T" Yamaguchi find a landing point where the triple axel will play close to the scouting

#64912	04/23/2019 7:48:30 pm	Jul 14th, 2040
5L1NK Joined: 06/10/2015 Posts: 297 Farmington Hills Cardinals Legends	This one hurt a bit. I felt cold and heartless by dropping Danger Started as a Lefty specialist but got promoted to setup man cause he was just dominant this year. Free to a good home! Can provide a positive reference

#65034	04/27/2019 7:52:36 am	Jul 23rd, 2040
5L1NK Joined: 06/10/2015 Posts: 297 Farmington Hills Cardinals Legends	I guess with summer approaching, it's cutting season :/ Baker was a long term project I have in mind and became part of a Platoon with Quintero. The acquisition of Welch today was bittersweet as I had to weigh the pros and cons between Baker and Welch and unfortunately for Baker, a 13 POT C/3B with better power projections is worth the roster spot I'd appreciate if anyone gave Baker a chance. He's developed well under me.

#65692	05/24/2019 7:44:09 am	Nov 4th, 2040
lostraven Joined: 07/02/2016 Posts: 1291 Corvallis Ravens II.1	Gah! I don't know if Redd has what it takes for the higher levels. Not sure why I'm having so much trouble cutting him though. Sure, the POT, but I've cut players with higher POT. I can't stop believing! He'll be a good reliever if I'm patient enough, right?

#65693	05/24/2019 7:46:26 am	Nov 4th, 2040
Haselrig Joined: 04/13/2014 Posts: 2812 Novi Doubledays IV.8	I wouldn't cut him if I had him.

#65699	05/24/2019 10:57:52 am	Nov 4th, 2040
Hayseed Joined: 02/20/2018 Posts: 296 Hood River Hawks II.1	Redd looks good. I can find a spot on my roster for him.

#65924	05/30/2019 6:57:16 pm	Feb 19th, 2041
Cactusguy21 Joined: 07/25/2017 Posts: 815 Presque Isle Vikings V.15	Someone give Kennedy a good home. He's a decent catcher, just never put it together here. And I've gotta find room for my glut of outfielders, so Jimenez is moving to backup catcher, making Kennedy redundant. Updated Thursday, May 30 2019 @ 6:58:59 pm PDT

#66261	06/10/2019 8:02:55 pm	Mar 25th, 2041
Brewnoe Joined: 03/25/2014 Posts: 829 Fall River Naughty Dawgs III.3	Looking ahead a bit, this one is gonna hurt ... Alfonzo "Doesn't" Mata Especially gonna miss his walk up. Meatballs - Great Motivational Speech - It Just Doesn't Matter

#66309	06/12/2019 8:43:13 pm	Apr 3rd, 2041
allen54chevy Joined: 11/22/2015 Posts: 475 Inactive	The end of an era. Holguin has been a fixture in my bullpen since 2027. Career ERA 3.41 Career Whip 1.227

#66363	06/14/2019 10:52:39 am	Apr 7th, 2041
StretchDynamo Joined: 05/16/2016 Posts: 64 Inactive	Had to cut Marshall today. Not the best pitcher I've ever had, but pretty damn reliable and a staple of the starting 5 for nearly a decade, even got an all star appearance two years ago. Through 3 starts this year though he's been getting shelled and walked 11 and only struck out 3. It's time for the painful cut

#66491	06/20/2019 7:35:48 pm	May 3rd, 2041
Cactusguy21 Joined: 07/25/2017 Posts: 815 Presque Isle Vikings V.15	The first player I ever drafted has been cut. That sucked to do, especially since I didn't cut him for much of an improvement. If anyone wants a highly average lefty reliever I've got one. He's a decent specialist, and passable middle releiver.

#66704	06/28/2019 4:50:49 pm	May 31st, 2041
amalric7 Joined: 01/20/2016 Posts: 2260 New York Lancers IV.2	I've had to say goodbye to Miranda, my fifth ever draft pick (5th round) my rookie season, turned out as good as you could hope for a 14 POT with no hit report - more power might have been nice but I think his average and OBP would have suffered for it. Just a really solid player who struggled a bit the last couple of seasons and now has a ton of guys ahead of him. Thanks Luis!

#66787	07/04/2019 9:07:00 am	Jun 20th, 2041
Brewnoe Joined: 03/25/2014 Posts: 829 Fall River Naughty Dawgs III.3	When push came to time shove the chips ... I had to say goodbye to my best catcher so far and poker buddy Phil "The Hell Mouth" Rasmussen

#66865	07/08/2019 9:48:19 am	Jul 7th, 2041
Seca Joined: 05/05/2014 Posts: 5230 Waterloo Dinosaurs Legends	Time to pull the plug on Tuero? He did the same thing last season. At the AS break he was hitting ~.100 with a double as his lone extra base hit. Had a crazy hot streak 2nd half. Worry is he could do that again (go on a tear). Other concern is that he becomes a 35 HR guy once he sheds the Waterloo No-Homers colours.

#66867	07/08/2019 10:41:01 am	Jul 7th, 2041
wick Joined: 02/26/2018 Posts: 57 Bayonne Bleeders V.15	@seca if you do, Bayonne will sign him

#66885	07/09/2019 7:19:04 am	Jul 9th, 2041
Seca Joined: 05/05/2014 Posts: 5230 Waterloo Dinosaurs Legends	Heh. Strangely enough was trying to free a roster spot to sign Canizles. I've flip flopped alot on home grown DHs. The idea of saving a few bucks I like. But there is definitely something to be said for the old guy mercenaries you can cut at will when they slump.

#66887	07/09/2019 10:46:49 am	Jul 9th, 2041
wick Joined: 02/26/2018 Posts: 57 Bayonne Bleeders V.15	@seca The problem for me is that I recognize how good Canizles might be, but my current DH isn't going anywhere, and really neither is my 1B. I've had Canizles on my bench since I signed him off FA and I can't figure out how to get him into the lineup. I'm going to sit my 1B for today's games anyway, just to give Canizles some ABs, but I feel bad about it. My 1B is younger and doing well. Updated Tuesday, July 9 2019 @ 10:49:37 am PDT

#66908	07/10/2019 2:49:11 pm	Jul 16th, 2041
Seca Joined: 05/05/2014 Posts: 5230 Waterloo Dinosaurs Legends	Heh. Looks like he is putting up some Tuero-esque numbers. Always appreciate it when someone takes a bullet for me.

#66910	07/10/2019 4:16:47 pm	Jul 16th, 2041
wick Joined: 02/26/2018 Posts: 57 Bayonne Bleeders V.15	Yes, Canizles did not take advantage of his 5 games in the starting line up... disappointing. Back to the bench!

#66939	07/12/2019 11:49:51 am	Jul 21st, 2041
DRS71119 Joined: 07/11/2019 Posts: 54 Inactive	[url]http://http://brokenbat.org/player/134032[/url] Louis Spear. I was inactive for a while and lost my team for a short time. I was able to get it back and this was one of the cuts the bot made while I was away. Another painful loss was Larry Moss my catcher. Both of them are picked up now.😟 Updated Friday, July 12 2019 @ 11:50:28 am PDT

#66941	07/12/2019 11:56:55 am	Jul 21st, 2041
amalric7 Joined: 01/20/2016 Posts: 2260 New York Lancers IV.2	Did you forget your password? Thought you'd be able to get a reset rather than start a new account. Moss was a Lancer for a while, could see the potential but fell victim to a roster crunch. Nice productive career.

#66943	07/12/2019 12:10:21 pm	Jul 21st, 2041
DRS71119 Joined: 07/11/2019 Posts: 54 Inactive	I was unable to log in because I was serving a debt to society for 90 days. That's behind now and I'm looking forward to the future and the growth of the four 15 POT prospects down in my minors. One of which the bot drafted for me. Updated Friday, July 12 2019 @ 12:10:50 pm PDT

#66947	07/13/2019 6:38:41 am	Jul 23rd, 2041
5L1NK Joined: 06/10/2015 Posts: 297 Farmington Hills Cardinals Legends	Cutting Callaway stung a fair bit. A 2 claimer 12 POT who had great prospects despite the "lacking" control. Kid develops into a stud attribute wise but couldn't translate that to wins for my club. Tried him at long relief and that was also a disaster. What hurt even more is he is one of my favorite claims and I was gloating about his development to the guy who drafted him about his great build and POT bump. Ah well, I hope he finds success with another club.i just hope it's not with a rival or any team above LL.4

#66953	07/13/2019 2:44:48 pm	Jul 25th, 2041
Hayseed Joined: 02/20/2018 Posts: 296 Hood River Hawks II.1	@5L1NK Ha, talking about lemon cuts and then a rival picks them up! You snagged Aragon! Uh-oh he is now gonna find the fountain of youth and knock me out of contention -- I just feel it is my karma. You must be laughing.

#68292	09/15/2019 4:30:47 pm	Jun 7th, 2042
Pig_Cola Joined: 09/15/2013 Posts: 1445 Glendale Marshals VI.9	It was a tough cut, but it had to be done. Kraig Ruff was one the best pitchers in my team's history, winning two Cy Young's, having the most strikeouts in his career with the Marshals, with 2163, passing Felix De La Cruz. He set the team record in a season with 285 2/3 innings pitched in a season.

#69301	11/06/2019 10:14:32 am	Mar 10th, 2043
Brewnoe Joined: 03/25/2014 Posts: 829 Fall River Naughty Dawgs III.3	Had to let go of a 16x national team selection and borderline team HoFer. Anthony "Psycho" Perkins Half-hoping a LL5/6 team that can play him everyday picks him up, half-hoping I can bring him back in August so he can get the 17th nat team and break the tie with Vitali

#69632	11/18/2019 5:09:29 pm	Apr 20th, 2043
hurstdm Joined: 01/18/2017 Posts: 580 Murfreesboro Moo Cows III.1	It brings the Cows great sadness to cut "Boom Boom" Quiroz. You had a great run, Boomer. Got you an appearance as a true Legend. Come get a coaching job when we see you on the other side.

#70022	12/07/2019 4:10:59 pm	Jun 30th, 2043
95th Cub Joined: 03/06/2015 Posts: 100 Racine Bombers VI.18	A painful one for sure...dude's got obvious talent, but the performance hasn't been where I feel it should be. Maybe a change of scenery does him good.

#70246	12/20/2019 6:46:34 am	Aug 19th, 2043
Rock777 Joined: 09/21/2014 Posts: 9790 Haverhill Halflings Legends	Painful to drop HoF pitcher Ricardo Garcia, but interleague is over and we needed space for rookies. We aren't contending this year (except for demotion), and realistically Garcia is the worst pitcher on our staff this year. He still looks like he could squeeze out a couple more years, but he is at that age where he could hit a cliff at any time. Combined with a small but visible step back this year, he was the only logical choice I fluctuated between him and Genovese (another poor performer), but it seems more likely that Genovese will provide some value next season. So Genovese stays on, while HoF starter Garcia (three time Cy Young winner) gets the axe Thankfully at 33 no one can pick him up just to give him a dumb nickname That happened with other of my HoF players in the past Updated Friday, December 20 2019 @ 7:31:16 am PST

#70250	12/20/2019 8:14:12 am	Aug 19th, 2043
DRS71119 Joined: 07/11/2019 Posts: 54 Inactive	I bookmarked Ricardo and might try to claim him in the off season. My nickname policy is a player has to either win an award, make an all-star, or all-league team while on my team. Also, I don't rename players with a nickname. Updated Friday, December 20 2019 @ 8:17:00 am PST

#70255	12/20/2019 12:47:39 pm	Aug 19th, 2043
Rock777 Joined: 09/21/2014 Posts: 9790 Haverhill Halflings Legends	Unless he loses a lot of points over the summer, he should still be a very solid contributor in V.

#70687	01/14/2020 12:57:28 pm	Jan 15th, 2044
hurstdm Joined: 01/18/2017 Posts: 580 Murfreesboro Moo Cows III.1	Wasn't it just Darryl Malloy night at the Cowabungalow? Breaking up is hard to do. Godspeed, friend!

#70689	01/14/2020 1:43:55 pm	Jan 15th, 2044
Rock777 Joined: 09/21/2014 Posts: 9790 Haverhill Halflings Legends	I see Ricardo Garcia has 27 claims right now. It will be interesting to see where he lands. I think he'll still produce well for a year or two wherever he ends up.

#71143	01/31/2020 8:23:06 am	Apr 7th, 2044
Seca Joined: 05/05/2014 Posts: 5230 Waterloo Dinosaurs Legends	Not that painful a cut. Should probably loose both these guys and be done with it. At the moment just looking to shed one of them. Both Sanchez and Araujo are part of a 1B glut. Sanchez: Good minor league numbers, and better scouting than Araujo. Less potential tho. Switch hitting isn't that big a plus, as he'd (likely) always be the RHB part of a platoon. BC seems dead. Araujo: Was a 14 pot that dropped. Again, good minor league stats. Like his uppercut swing. All skills are moving up. But "good" hitters rarely work out for me.

#72334	03/28/2020 6:55:52 am	Jan 15th, 2045
ESac Joined: 09/05/2016 Posts: 380 San Antonio Defenders IV.7	Dueñas was a tough one to cut. He was such a reliable hitter for the Stars. But the offseason hit him like a truck and I have younger players that can also DH. Updated Saturday, March 28 2020 @ 6:56:30 am PDT

#72352	03/28/2020 1:48:48 pm	Jan 15th, 2045
wuggla Joined: 05/10/2013 Posts: 1062 Colorado Springs Vultures V.14	OF Sheldon Fritz 28yo 107si 13pot switch hitting was cut. I hope he finds a good home? Who will claim him?

#73705	05/19/2020 12:31:55 am	Aug 4th, 2045
tamale Joined: 02/19/2018 Posts: 358 Inactive	End of an era in Concord as I release the two best players I've ever had, Muniz and Lee.

#73720	05/20/2020 3:47:38 pm	Aug 12th, 2045
mjhack Joined: 10/17/2015 Posts: 100 Binghamton Bobcats V.8	Lee was especially solid!

#73722	05/20/2020 4:33:31 pm	Aug 13th, 2045
Rock777 Joined: 09/21/2014 Posts: 9790 Haverhill Halflings Legends	It's ironic that Garcia ended up back in my league. He didn't fair so well against Haverhill, but he has been acquitting himself very well overall. WHIP is a bit on the high side, but very respectable for a 35 year old guy. Updated Wednesday, May 20 2020 @ 4:36:28 pm PDT

#75320	07/06/2020 5:26:23 pm	Apr 21st, 2046
wuggla Joined: 05/10/2013 Posts: 1062 Colorado Springs Vultures V.14	When The Lion roars #1 pick 95si 13pot was sent to agent. He could be Star for some one.

#75429	07/09/2020 4:42:49 pm	May 2nd, 2046
hurstdm Joined: 01/18/2017 Posts: 580 Murfreesboro Moo Cows III.1	Tsuyoshi Iwasa. Mr. Tiny Strikeout Man. The essential Moo Cow pitcher. I may cry.

#75436	07/09/2020 6:29:08 pm	May 3rd, 2046
Seca Joined: 05/05/2014 Posts: 5230 Waterloo Dinosaurs Legends	Seems like a “why now” is order. Dude was pitching great this season.

#75439	07/09/2020 10:14:27 pm	May 3rd, 2046
Ced Joined: 11/07/2014 Posts: 656 Denver Broncos III.2	You see? I caught you slipping. The Moo Cows were making room for Mooo-rris "The Cow" Cao. Once met a dairy princess from Turlock. He deserves one career at bat if you're sentimental about baseball like all of us are. Now when are the Moo Cows gonna put up that AB?! Hell, maybe he plays third for us if you're not quick. Updated Thursday, July 9 2020 @ 10:15:13 pm PDT

#75483	07/11/2020 3:13:10 pm	May 7th, 2046
hurstdm Joined: 01/18/2017 Posts: 580 Murfreesboro Moo Cows III.1	Iwasa is purely a salary cut. Lots of young talent coming up behind him. Hopefully someone can fill those shoes. As requested, Morris Cao got his ABs for the sentimental Milk Machine. He went a magical 1 for 2. How could I turn down a guy named Mo Cow?

#75485	07/11/2020 4:47:46 pm	May 9th, 2046
Brewnoe Joined: 03/25/2014 Posts: 829 Fall River Naughty Dawgs III.3	What does it take to make a catcher? http://brokenbat.org/player/171586 ... can't catch a cold

#75487	07/11/2020 5:46:54 pm	May 10th, 2046
Rock777 Joined: 09/21/2014 Posts: 9790 Haverhill Halflings Legends	"Jaybird" Hawes is having the same problem this season

#75492	07/11/2020 7:10:03 pm	May 10th, 2046
Noodle Joined: 02/15/2016 Posts: 172 Inactive	In my 20 or so seasons of playing this game I cant recall ever being happy with my catching situation.

#75632	07/15/2020 5:00:05 pm	May 24th, 2046
Seca Joined: 05/05/2014 Posts: 5230 Waterloo Dinosaurs Legends	Not that painful. Safe to cut Vaughn eh?

#75635	07/15/2020 6:12:05 pm	May 25th, 2046
JJNZ Joined: 12/09/2014 Posts: 1601 Yakima Monster III.3	@Seca - wow, he has struggled. I don't think he's as bad as the stats make out, but at the same time I don't think you'd ever regret cutting him

#75642	07/16/2020 5:00:00 am	May 25th, 2046
Seca Joined: 05/05/2014 Posts: 5230 Waterloo Dinosaurs Legends	Not unexpected. His minors portfolio wasn't very good. Had hoped his movement would catch up and make it harder to square him up. I drafted him and Goodwin #2 and #3 in '39. Goodwin has the same issue. They are my last "old" type prospects (whiffed 2040).

#75730	07/17/2020 8:25:59 pm	May 31st, 2046
Rock777 Joined: 09/21/2014 Posts: 9790 Haverhill Halflings Legends	Alton Foxx was a tough cut. A very solid 29 year old pitcher. But he's currently the worst on the team and I needed to make room for a rookie starter

#75732	07/17/2020 10:18:46 pm	May 31st, 2046
Brewnoe Joined: 03/25/2014 Posts: 829 Fall River Naughty Dawgs III.3	Men of a certain age may understand why I gave this one some extra ... #10 - Bo Carrick Updated Saturday, July 18 2020 @ 9:36:44 am PDT

#76086	07/27/2020 11:24:11 pm	Jul 9th, 2046
Hayseed Joined: 02/20/2018 Posts: 296 Hood River Hawks II.1	Frisch has got to get playing time. PLease give it to him. He can hit very well and really run. The 8-14-13 fielding is not ideal for an INF, but he could get by I think in the OF even without much experience. My prob is that I couldn't get him on the field. I also have Romero, a great 5x AS, that I can't get on the field either. With a 10 game lead I don't want to pay 2 insurance guys $2 mil each, so Frisch is up for grabs. Enjoy.

#76507	08/11/2020 4:39:26 pm	Sep 3rd, 2046
JohnnyBoi62 Joined: 06/21/2019 Posts: 356 Inactive	Hayseed, I didn't even see your promotion of Frisch, but that's exactly what I wanted him for when I was looking to muscle up for my stretch run. He looked like the best LH infielder to back up 35 year old Henry. Here's hoping he lives up to it! But sadly, why I'm here today is I'll be participating in draft RD #8 this friday, and Hopper is on the chopping block for that right now: http://brokenbat.org/player/139624 Barring at least one and probably 2 lengthy pitching injuries (where we might keep him as an emergency pitcher) we're probably going to have to part ways friday. I put him on the back burner for a while and he had a couple serviceable outings on his return, but we can't have what happened today from here on out. It's a little frustrating because this is not "off a cliff" performance drop, but the sample size is big enough to see that he's not up for the task anymore, and at this point it's only going to get worse.

#76512	08/11/2020 5:38:43 pm	Sep 4th, 2046
Rock777 Joined: 09/21/2014 Posts: 9790 Haverhill Halflings Legends	Hopper was good, but he is aging. Clear signs this year, with a marked drop in performance. He will only get worse next season. It seems like the right time to part ways.

#76565	08/14/2020 9:17:49 am	Sep 12th, 2046
JohnnyBoi62 Joined: 06/21/2019 Posts: 356 Inactive	Yep, doesn’t make it any less painful! He started 2046 with a bang and did pretty well in the cup too, I thought he was going to fend off the age bug one more year!

#76566	08/14/2020 9:22:21 am	Sep 12th, 2046
Brewnoe Joined: 03/25/2014 Posts: 829 Fall River Naughty Dawgs III.3	In my 20 or so seasons of playing this game I cant recall ever being happy with my catching situation. Watch my waivers for a couple weeks. There may be a few 3b/C types. I hated my catchers ... until I got Alfonzo "Doesn't" Mata ... he might have mattered, but as soon as I got him, I kept finding better Angles Time will tell if this one hurts or not. Art "The Heir" Reeve ... haircut Many prayers for Kazuo "Samurai Cat" Tsukahara following the 15 pots https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samurai_Cat

#76974	08/29/2020 1:01:49 pm	Jan 15th, 2047
Rock777 Joined: 09/21/2014 Posts: 9790 Haverhill Halflings Legends	Seems like every season I have to cut a couple pitchers before their time. I think Murillo still has a lot in the tank, but I need space and with the exception of one rookie SP, he seems to be the worst pitcher on the team now...

#77378	09/15/2020 7:08:13 am	Mar 25th, 2047
lostraven Joined: 07/02/2016 Posts: 1291 Corvallis Ravens II.1	This cut pains me badly. Billings looked like he would be a force vs. LHP at least. But he's proved to be a slow-to-develop, mediocre bat with huge power. I have so many other options to fill 1B or DH vs. LHP, I finally cut him. I hope someone in the lower leagues picks him up and gives him a full-time shot. Sorry, Vern', had a roster crunch.

#77398	09/15/2020 4:27:46 pm	Mar 28th, 2047
JohnnyBoi62 Joined: 06/21/2019 Posts: 356 Inactive	Another "gouger" of a cut for the Falcons to start the year. Prince Henry was coaxed into retirement to make roster space prior to kicking off the 2047 season: http://brokenbat.org/player/141316 "Mr. .800" never lost it against RHP, even at 35 playing a league up from where he spent the rest of his career. I may have let him go a bit early, but I saw enough signs of regression that made me make the tough decision. Still, it sucks that I'll never know how "Hollywood" would have batted in LL.IV!

#77405	09/16/2020 6:59:41 am	Mar 30th, 2047
Cactusguy21 Joined: 07/25/2017 Posts: 815 Presque Isle Vikings V.15	http://brokenbat.org/player/161766 I probably cut him too early, but I just don't have room in a crowded outfield full of studs like Evans, Diaz, and Zelaya. If anyone needs a great platoon outfielder or first baseman, he's a free agent!

#77986	10/16/2020 6:36:55 am	Jul 21st, 2047
wuggla Joined: 05/10/2013 Posts: 1062 Colorado Springs Vultures V.14	http://brokenbat.org/player/197596 He is ready to be a starting pitcher. Development is good playing 2seasons at every lvl, "but" his statistics don't look like higher than level 5 leagues. Sure thing he will be alright in leagues 6. Somebody should give him a chance?

#78795	11/21/2020 3:25:47 pm	Mar 3rd, 2048
timothy Joined: 03/18/2020 Posts: 207 West Fargo Turtles V.4	My thirty-one year old rookie has become a too-expensive thirty-four year old platooning DH when my division opponents only have seven left-handed starters between them. Updated Saturday, November 21 2020 @ 3:27:03 pm PST

#78798	11/21/2020 3:38:07 pm	Mar 3rd, 2048
Seca Joined: 05/05/2014 Posts: 5230 Waterloo Dinosaurs Legends	Big thumbs up for finding a 31 yr old 11 pot gem. That speed tho ...

#79054	12/01/2020 9:39:16 am	Mar 25th, 2048
wuggla Joined: 05/10/2013 Posts: 1062 Colorado Springs Vultures V.14	http://brokenbat.org/player/176126 Cutting payroll he can still play ball. Got a 28yo who will get full season if he hits more than allowed passed balls and errors oh yea did I mention his 11arm 18% caught stealing. Anyway catcher situation is going to be interesting at least.

#79074	12/01/2020 10:27:50 pm	Mar 30th, 2048
Brewnoe Joined: 03/25/2014 Posts: 829 Fall River Naughty Dawgs III.3	Guess even the turtle got mad

#79593	01/01/2021 9:38:16 pm	Jul 23rd, 2048
Midas Mulligan Joined: 12/21/2018 Posts: 25 Goldsboro Goldbugs V.1	I love this guy, but he's gotta go, as I am stacked up at 1B. have a good career, dude with a great name: Harley England Code: http://brokenbat.org/player/251550 Updated Friday, January 1 2021 @ 9:39:20 pm PST

#79599	01/02/2021 10:50:06 pm	Jul 28th, 2048
Hayseed Joined: 02/20/2018 Posts: 296 Hood River Hawks II.1	Ouch. I raised the white flag. I just cut my MVP, The Walrus, from last season to make room for kids. He is the best leadoff hitter in team history, maybe our best steal and one of my favorites.

#91565	05/21/2023 4:05:08 pm	Oct 20th, 2059
Brewnoe Joined: 03/25/2014 Posts: 829 Fall River Naughty Dawgs III.3	Cutting "T-Bone" Christian Cordova gives me existential blues (pt2)

#93970	04/03/2024 1:35:33 am	Jan 22nd, 2064
Favuz Joined: 02/26/2014 Posts: 664 Oxnard Sunsets IV.3	Put a claim on Dill thinking "i'll never land him, but it's worth a try". Happens that i get him, and after a day of thinking i have decided to cut Ratliff to make him room, only because i have a logjam at 1B/DH and he really can't play in the OF He's one of best 11 pot i've ever seen (and when i picked him if was a 12), i think he can be a DH/1B for any team. Painful cut, really painful.

#93980	04/03/2024 6:35:19 pm	Feb 5th, 2064
electriceel883 Joined: 05/26/2021 Posts: 1529 Irvine Infernos III.3	Been there. I advised Pratt for awhile to cut Dill as he was such a tweener in many respects. Not surprising he was quite shiny on waivers. While I am not losing sleep over clearing 5 spots from 50 for the flip, having 5 claims whiff (6 or less claims on each down to a 2) yesterday hurts. Instead of giving Pags a chance to at least try to play in off lineups, his decline to 15 range was the main factor. Sioux City and one other team were apparently willing to pay him 4.5M. His decline at 31 (along with Mares) I feel are the biggest factors in demoting. Hard to let the guys who helped you get to league championships go. Nunez had been declining since 31 and by now his SI lost was severe at 11. He was among my best pitchers last season, though I have to say his whole career was below what I hoped. Unlike Pags he was cheap for Plantation to sign. Lockhart was an old guy who's development was fine, but lost a speed at only 29. Lost a decent base stealer. Now with Yuma. Donnelly I cut at the conclusion of last season. Right handed OF have a hard time getting my love anyway, and I feel like he's had 1000 AB so he is who he is. Sure he might have a good season here or there but I feel like it would be an outlier. He went to RCR. So, outliers, its like the 2nd player I drafted in my first full draft (2051), Coronado, which is also the only the time the pitcher pool early got me something decent...8 seasons in the bigs, tried him as a SP, mediocre to bad, SET since 2058, 2 of the 6 seasons he was good. 30 and not declined as of yet, so SIXTY TWO CLAIMS!!!! With the release of Shanks last season, I pretty much have no base stealing at all. Youth movement underway, if you can call a lot of 25-27 years olds "youth" Updated Wednesday, April 3 2024 @ 6:38:20 pm PDT

#93985	04/04/2024 6:23:28 am	Feb 5th, 2064
Favuz Joined: 02/26/2014 Posts: 664 Oxnard Sunsets IV.3	Yeah Dill it's definitely a tweener. Not enough fielding to play 1B, not enough range to play OF and too many fielding points wasted to play DH. I'll play him in RF for this season, he should overcome with his bat his lack of Range. Could move him to 1B in the future though

#93991	04/04/2024 6:23:18 pm	Feb 19th, 2064
Brewnoe Joined: 03/25/2014 Posts: 829 Fall River Naughty Dawgs III.3	Hard to let the guys who helped you get to league championships go. If you think that's hard, try dropping guys that have a couple cup wins

#94595	07/18/2024 7:06:22 am	May 25th, 2065
Rock777 Joined: 09/21/2014 Posts: 9790 Haverhill Halflings Legends	I'm going to put it off until after the update tomorrow, but in order to draft I have to cut a guy. Right now its looking like a 22 year old guy I picked up last season against 30 claims. I always feel a little anxious to let go of a big claimer (even if they are only a mediocre player).

#94634	08/01/2024 6:43:34 pm	Jul 20th, 2065
Brewnoe Joined: 03/25/2014 Posts: 829 Fall River Naughty Dawgs III.3	Name - sake. Ravens got Mike Bruno will he bee the next Matt "The Wrench" Bench regrets s'il vouz play.