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#22884	08/23/2015 1:57:32 pm
Spoonerific Joined: 01/17/2013 Posts: 339 Inactive	Comparing two players on my team, even given the small sample size, seems to suggest that it is far more random than structured. Case: http://brokenbat.org/player/65224 vs. http://brokenbat.org/player/89707 Player 1 increased by .55 M after 96 AB combined on three different rosters. Player 2 decreased .60 M after representing the USA in the World Classic, Being an All-Star, All-League and League MVP. He came in 2nd in steals and hit .285/.371/.510 and hit 25 HRs. I don;t think I could ask for much more from CF (why no Golden Glove maybe). These two may just be outliers but it would seem these two make cases that something might be fishy in the salary attribution system.

#22886	08/23/2015 2:11:16 pm
Rock777 Joined: 09/21/2014 Posts: 9603 Haverhill Halflings III.1	The Montes raise seems consistent with my experience. This guy has been sky rocketing... Michael is a complete mystery to me. I'd count your lucky starts and hope the BB IRS doesn't come calling.

#22890	08/23/2015 2:25:08 pm
newtman Joined: 11/02/2013 Posts: 3343 Inactive	Keep in mind the salary is based on the past three seasons. Thus if the last season was worse than the season 4 game years ago the salary could go down.

#22891	08/23/2015 2:34:43 pm
Spoonerific Joined: 01/17/2013 Posts: 339 Inactive	@newt Michael's last season was much better than the previous 2 though. While Montes was so shipped off 3 squad in the past season (which isn't taken into account most likely) but is brought up s a failing point of the salary calculation in one capacity or another. I might be the only person crazy (*read as*::stupid) enough to keep a 3.9 M backup SS.

#22892	08/23/2015 2:37:59 pm
Rock777 Joined: 09/21/2014 Posts: 9603 Haverhill Halflings III.1	@newt That doesn't seem right. My guy had a MUCH better season 3 years ago than he did last year, but his salary went up almost 1 Million. Updated Sunday, August 23 2015 @ 2:39:11 pm PDT

#22893	08/23/2015 3:03:04 pm
mcrmoe Joined: 09/24/2014 Posts: 290 Inactive	Im hurting over a 2.35 M raise from Felix. He's been the anchor of my bullpen, so that makes it a little easier to swallow. But 3.9 M raise in the past two seasons is crazy, just hope this little trend doesn't continue.

#22895	08/23/2015 3:13:54 pm
Pig_Cola Joined: 09/15/2013 Posts: 1445 Glendale Marshals III.2	How did my CY Young winner Doug Pierce only get a .50 raise? He was first in ERA, 2nd in wins, and 3rd in K's. So to answer the question, I'm guessing the salary increases are random.

#22896	08/23/2015 3:17:32 pm
Seca Joined: 05/05/2014 Posts: 5201 Waterloo Dinosaurs Legends	I got blind-sided again this season. One of these season's I'll be ready. Was Daniel this time. Got a 2.25 million raise, representing a 78% increase in his salary. It's the cost of bringing in developed players through free agency I guess. A financially sustainable roster probably only has a couple out-of-house guys. Did notice Fischer's contract saw a substantial cut. Tiger504 a better negotiator? Senior discount? (Fischer's age, not Tiger504's ).

#22897	08/23/2015 3:19:30 pm
newtman Joined: 11/02/2013 Posts: 3343 Inactive	I had two backup infielders making a combined 5.8 mil last season, Kennedy and Kirby. I have no idea why salaries are so weird, but from the discussions about it in the past Steve said there is an algorithm and it is not just random. Over 30 year old players do tend to ask for more money though so I'd get ready for a major price increase on Michael next season. Updated Sunday, August 23 2015 @ 3:24:23 pm PDT

#22898	08/23/2015 3:27:21 pm
Seca Joined: 05/05/2014 Posts: 5201 Waterloo Dinosaurs Legends	Pierce is home grown. You are getting a discount. Would get the same discount if the player wasn't drafted by your club, but joined when he was young and did his development with your team. When a player gets released from the team that developed him, he gets a bump in salary. He also follows a different track in terms of salary increases. Guys like Daniel often seem to make a big correction the first off-season with their non home club.

#22899	08/23/2015 3:36:11 pm
Spoonerific Joined: 01/17/2013 Posts: 339 Inactive	@Seca Homegrown vs. Free Agent make a lot of sense, I hadn't considered that aspect. As far as getting ready to pay Michael, I was ready for the explosion this season.

#22908	08/23/2015 6:18:06 pm
Tiger504 Joined: 06/17/2014 Posts: 1314 Kalamazoo Bloody Tigers III.4	I have not figured out how salaries are figured in the year+ I've been here but I suspect at bats and innings pitched may have a bigger impact than actual performance. As far as Fischer goes, I am wondering if my relegation had an impact, and conversely, promotion would likely impact as well. I had Velez go from 5 million plus to 3 million plus as well, so I had a couple of large salaried acquisitions drop significantly this spring.

#22932	08/24/2015 6:17:47 am
Pig_Cola Joined: 09/15/2013 Posts: 1445 Glendale Marshals III.2	Oh, yeah. I forgot that home grown pitchers have a discount. Thx for the explanation Seca.

#22934	08/24/2015 7:26:51 am
Endrju Joined: 05/28/2015 Posts: 577 Inactive	On a side note - remember the 9 million dollar third baseman? He's a 13 million dollar third baseman now

#22970	08/24/2015 2:13:14 pm
Benchwarmer Joined: 01/06/2015 Posts: 445 Inactive	In league level 5/6? What kind of a fool picks up a player with that big of a contract at that low a level? I bet his finances are severely in the red unless the rest of his players are $0.5mil rookies.

#22972	08/24/2015 2:26:18 pm
Spoonerific Joined: 01/17/2013 Posts: 339 Inactive	Top 3 position players make over 25 M combined. Which is more than all my position players combined. Geez. But it looks like signing a bunch of free agents is bad for business.

#22976	08/24/2015 2:39:50 pm
Haselrig Joined: 04/13/2014 Posts: 2790 Novi Doubledays III.4	I guess the Dan Snyder philosophy doesn't work in Broken Bat either

#22997	08/24/2015 5:49:54 pm
PrivateSnowflake Joined: 01/06/2015 Posts: 1168 Bloomington Thunder Legends	Well he did promote. 119 wins and 8 runs a game. Those guys paid off against division six pitching. One guy had 175 rbi's. Whatever he was doing wasn't working. Started in D3 and steadily dropped. Maybe this was a last ditch effort. I do still think Dan Snyder would mess up an Arena 2 league team

#23060	08/25/2015 7:59:43 pm
Philliesworld Joined: 10/17/2014 Posts: 788 Pierre Jacobins III.3	I hope Dan Snyder stays at the skins for a millennium, he sucks,sucks, and sucks some more. I am an Eagles fan................