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#83461	07/25/2021 12:56:48 am	Apr 14th, 2051
AssumedPseudonym Joined: 10/26/2016 Posts: 1139 Deerfield Beach Rats VI.13	I’ve never been a fan of the name Indians, personally, but at least it’s better than the Redskins. Naming a team after a race (or a slur thereof) isn’t exactly the way I would go about respecting said race’s culture. I don’t know that I particularly like Guardians, but I’m not exactly in favor of the move away from the Native American theme. No, that is not contradictory. I’m nearly a quarter Native American, myself (predominantly Apache, Cherokee, and Kiowa if anyone is curious). I live Atlanta-ish. Yes, I am a fan of the Braves. No, I am not offended by the name. Not in the least. It’s essentially taking the word “warriors” and putting a Native American spin on it. Similarly, the Kansas City Chiefs, which mirrors their baseball team, the Royals, is basically a Native American take on the same concept. tl;dr: Not disappointed by the name change, am disappointed by the move away from the Native American theme.

#83475	07/26/2021 2:57:59 am	Apr 18th, 2051
JV-Tosshin Joined: 11/11/2020 Posts: 303 Biloxi Thresher Sharks IV.8	I completely agree that there was surely a way to keep a nod to Native Americans, but I suspect they didn't want to risk anything, which is a bit of a shame. And as for Chiefs, that could be anything. I went many, many years without knowing that was meant to be a nod to specifically Native American chiefs. Mainly because I'm European, sure, but also because a Chief could be anything. Hell, vikings had chiefs/chieftains/warchiefs, so...

#83494	07/27/2021 10:05:05 am	Apr 21st, 2051
Ced Joined: 11/07/2014 Posts: 658 Denver Broncos II.1	I did not know about this. I thought that Marvel Comics had bought Cleveland. Guardians of the Galaxy and all that. Logo is fine. Do not like the name of the mascot. Does not sound basebally enough.

#83496	07/27/2021 11:12:10 am	Apr 21st, 2051
Rock777 Joined: 09/21/2014 Posts: 9828 Haverhill Halflings Legends	That's why I was saying the logo should be green

#83497	07/27/2021 11:24:12 am	Apr 21st, 2051
Rock777 Joined: 09/21/2014 Posts: 9828 Haverhill Halflings Legends	Speaking of Green. I guess its just a matter of time before Notre Dame and Boston get rid of their racist logos. But I hope they keep the Irish connection.

#83498	07/27/2021 12:17:47 pm	Apr 21st, 2051
rlawrence Joined: 02/03/2020 Posts: 102 Inactive	meh

#83499	07/27/2021 12:48:52 pm	Apr 21st, 2051
Chicken Fillet Joined: 04/01/2020 Posts: 167 Inactive	I don't think many people have voiced concerns about Notre-Dame so far about their logo. I could be wrong, though.

#83501	07/27/2021 2:48:38 pm	Apr 21st, 2051
Rock777 Joined: 09/21/2014 Posts: 9828 Haverhill Halflings Legends	Well its an offensive stereotypical caricature of another culture. Pretty much the same thing. Speaking as someone who is part Native American and part Celtic, I find the logo similarly insulting as the Indians logo. I was ok with both logos, but they are really both insulting. Especially in the Boston area where Irish are stereotyped as thugs. In case folks aren't aware, the Indians were named in honor of Louis Sockalexis, who was the first Native American Major League player. He played for the Spiders back in 1897. Basically the Native American version of Jackie Robinson 50 years before Jackie Robinson. That is why it is a bit of a kick in the pants that they moved away from Native American themes entirely. Updated Tuesday, July 27 2021 @ 2:52:08 pm PDT

#83502	07/27/2021 3:25:49 pm	Apr 22nd, 2051
Chicken Fillet Joined: 04/01/2020 Posts: 167 Inactive	They definitely could have stuck with the Native American theme without being insulting. And yeah, maybe Notre-Dame will go through it someday sooner than later. It's true that their logo is... questionable?

#83549	07/30/2021 9:12:36 am	May 3rd, 2051
Cactusguy21 Joined: 07/25/2017 Posts: 815 Inactive	Guardians is an improvement over Indians, but it's pretty meh to me. I wish they had eliminated the drab color scheme and done something a little less safe. The name sounds like a minor league football team. I mean as long as the phillies exist it won't be the dumbest name, but definitely a missed opportunity to do something really cool.