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#92566	08/27/2023 12:32:48 am	Mar 18th, 2061
electriceel883 Joined: 05/26/2021 Posts: 1529 Irvine Infernos III.3	Can someone figure out how to program the AI into realizing there is something called AAA? Or A Ball? They are the only two levels with an automatic recommendation and the AI ignores itself. Latest claimer was 24 when plucked out of AA and set on the League Roster for 2 seasons accumulating no stats. Seems to happen a lot with AI controlled teams. Another claimer, Hill turned in a full Age 22 AND 23 season in Rookie Ball. But then, these are the only guys I get anyway, guys that have to be force trained.

#92603	09/02/2023 4:54:16 pm	Apr 13th, 2061
Andreimun Joined: 10/25/2012 Posts: 44 York Frogs IV.5	First of all, I want to again say what a great game this is and how much enjoyment it has given me over the years. I left the game once, many years ago, because people would just wait until a specific time when all the free agents were released and grabbed the best ones, essentially breaking the game. Much has improved since then. However, I have to say that the draft system is still somewhat broken. There are people (typically in the high tiers of the league) who more or less always draft potential 15-16 players in the first round, clearly because they are obsessively refreshing the pages Friday morning when the drafts happen and get first dibs at the best players. I don't think this is the way the game is meant to go. There must be a better way. My preferred fix is to give each player their own (smaller) pick of prospects to draw from during the season. Really, this game must do away with the exploits that game the system. I don't mind drafting a pot 11 guy first round because of bad luck, but I mind that I will never be competitive against the guys who exploit the draft.

#92606	09/02/2023 7:12:26 pm	Apr 14th, 2061
Rock777 Joined: 09/21/2014 Posts: 9790 Haverhill Halflings Legends	I proposed something similar. Basically taking the top 768 highest POT players and reserving one for each team. For the first round or two. You could still get unlucky and get one of those horrible high POT guys. But its much more likely everyone would have a decent option in the first couple rounds. I don't know that its really an exploit. I remember when someone did an analysis of the draft picks. Haverhill was one of the earliest picks, but we had a horrible draft board (outlier in his dataset). Picking early doesn't always net a good player. Especially for Haverhill it seems Updated Saturday, September 2 2023 @ 7:14:13 pm PDT

#92609	09/03/2023 1:51:58 am	Apr 14th, 2061
Divac Joined: 06/14/2020 Posts: 137 Florence Violets IV.8	I don't know, maybe it's something wrong with my draft button. In almost 3 years into this game I drafted 1 pot 15 player. One. And he dropped to 14. I drafted usually among fist three picks in the pool and still don't get those 15 or higher pots. Where are they?

#92610	09/03/2023 4:58:38 am	Apr 14th, 2061
electriceel883 Joined: 05/26/2021 Posts: 1529 Irvine Infernos III.3	I am generally one of the earliest players to draft. I would say my run is pretty average. Two 15's in 10 seasons or so of drafting. Sure, I found a 17 POT in Round 2 last year, but anyone can see he's wildly overscouted. Generally 13-14's in the earlier rounds. Some years its been either poor boards or what players were worth drafting didnt fill any team needs.

#92612	09/03/2023 7:17:29 am	Apr 14th, 2061
Andreimun Joined: 10/25/2012 Posts: 44 York Frogs IV.5	Electric Eel, I just rolled up my sleeves and collected some data. How is this: I surveyed all the teams in Legends, all the teams in a randomly selected L3 (not the one I'm in), five teams ranked ~200 and a team ranked around 300 and two teams ranked around 400 and looked at their #1 draft picks over the last 10 years. I only kept low ranked teams where users have been around for a while and have logged in in September. I'm not singling anyone out here, but here's a fun little fact: out of 32 surveyed teams, no one drafted better than the number 1 ranked team in the league. Ok, so maybe they are number 1 because they drafted well in the past 10 years (reverse causality). Even in the last 5 years, only one team drafted better than the top-ranked team. Also, teams ranked 200 and worse drafted players with (statistically significant) lower initial pot in round 1 (about -0.25 lower). This is not about skill, this purely more motivated players exploiting the system.

#92613	09/03/2023 7:24:21 am	Apr 14th, 2061
Andreimun Joined: 10/25/2012 Posts: 44 York Frogs IV.5	Also, if I remove the best and worse pick for each team (after all, you can get lucky or unlucky in one particular draft), teams ranked 200 and lower draft 1st round picks with 0.5 lower POT and top 20 teams draft 1st round picks with 0.25 higher POT than the rest of the league. The top team in the league has an average POT of 15 for their 1st round pick (once I remove best and worst-ever picks) and are the best drafting team. This is not luck, it's exploiting the game.

#92614	09/03/2023 7:27:39 am	Apr 14th, 2061
Andreimun Joined: 10/25/2012 Posts: 44 York Frogs IV.5	Divac, you're drafting international. It's a small pool. It might be that there is only 1-2 (maybe none) good players in that pool in a given year. This is another issue. Unless you are really one of the first people to draft, there is no point ever going international or even Asian.

#92615	09/03/2023 7:59:09 am	Apr 14th, 2061
Divac Joined: 06/14/2020 Posts: 137 Florence Violets IV.8	That's not true statement. In international pool are players like Robert Horák. It's small pool so I should get those players because I draft as one of the fists users there... yet, like I said, it's not the case. Simple it's random roll and it doesn't matter if you roll first or fiftieth. If you take really sample of those 200 teams for like few seasons and those lowest 200 teams for the same amount of time.. and result is 0,25 of pot? Like that's nothing. Not even mentioned that a lot of low rank teams draft for some specific reason and not always the best player. This not existing different just proves my point. Updated Sunday, September 3 2023 @ 8:14:43 am PDT

#92616	09/03/2023 8:24:49 am	Apr 14th, 2061
Rock777 Joined: 09/21/2014 Posts: 9790 Haverhill Halflings Legends	It does make a difference. Your odds are slightly improved the earlier you pick. But it certainly doesn't guarantee that you get a lucky roll. There is definitely a considerable amount of luck involved. Drafting early improves your odds, but its not really an exploit. I'd still like to see distributions improved. It makes a lot of sense that the #1 team has had incredible luck in the draft. I just don't think that means they were always one of the first to pick. I pick early all the time and still get garbage.