Broken Bat - Suggestions: Increased Transparency

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#93889	03/25/2024 6:54:24 pm	Oct 26th, 2063
Annie Oakley Joined: 10/14/2023 Posts: 60 Independence Cavaliers III.2	I think that where it is impossible to be able to form a judgement on something within the game that further details about how it is calculated should be provided. One aspect where this is the case is the impact of the various Managers/Coaches. I'd like to be able to make a choice/judgement on the balance of in game performance and player development, but I have no idea about the extent to which/how the different coach roles impact those factors. For example, does the Manager have less or more impact on Hitting performance than the Hitting Coach? Does the Manager have more or less impact on the development of Hitters than the Hitting Coach, Bench or Base Coaches? Are the influences of the Bench and Base Coaches (or Managers/Hit/Pitch Coaches re respective skill for that matter) on General Development cumulative or is it only the best-rated coach that influences a particular skill development? As sub-level training increases aren't known and are we assume impacted by aspects outside of the coaches I would suggest that it is impossible to ever work out how this works and therefore greater detail on it should be provided.

#93896	03/26/2024 2:37:28 pm	Oct 28th, 2063
Rock777 Joined: 09/21/2014 Posts: 9778 Haverhill Halflings Legends	Personally I like a little mystery. Its much more realistic. How much influence did Belichick have on the Patriots offense? Was it 10% or 12% or 15%. Is it possible to put a number to it real life? no. Would I choose to hirer a less coach if the number 10% and not 15%? no. In real life, who more influences development of a player, the 1st base or 3rd base coach? I have no clue. I'd still get the best guys I could. In reality, we have more choice now. If the math was spelled out and the 1st base coach was 1% more effective than the 3rd base coach, we would all feel obligated to put the better guy at 1st base. A little mystery means you actually have to make a strategic choice, not just solve a math problem. I think the mystery/fuzziness in numbers is a good thing. What I would like is some better definitions of what things are. Like, what in the world is Bat Control. Because I think I've been convinced that it is the complete opposite of my real world knowledge coming into the game, and the definition is super unclear (and somewhat contradictory). Updated Tuesday, March 26 2024 @ 2:45:39 pm PDT

#93900	03/26/2024 4:13:38 pm	Oct 30th, 2063
Annie Oakley Joined: 10/14/2023 Posts: 60 Independence Cavaliers III.2	As a spectator, no you don't know how involved Belichick was (although I did watch a documentary recently that would indicate very little) but if you were the GM you would know who was taking training, who was involved in developing the plays etc, we have no clue. For all we know the Manager is concentrating on more on his budget and travel arrangements than training. As you say, there is already a lot of mystery involved in the things that we theoretically have a chance of monitoring that we shouldn't be left guessing on the things where we have no hope of monitoring. And yes, always get the best is of course the aim, but there are rightly not enough of the best coaches to go around so you have to choose what to favour, but without knowing how it works we're just guessing. Is a 1st base coach that is Excellent in one thing better than one who is Good at 2 things - who knows - it will depend on whether only the best coach trains that skill or they all have a go

#93901	03/26/2024 8:45:15 pm	Oct 30th, 2063
Rock777 Joined: 09/21/2014 Posts: 9778 Haverhill Halflings Legends	That's real life too. The quality and impact of a coach are VERY subjective. There is no number score. You can assume that all of your coaches are training your guys. It says that in the manual. But to clear one thing up, its not the best coach. Steve did make that much clear when he introduced the coaches (although its not captured in the manual). They all have some impact on the training cumulatively, but I don't believe it is simply additive. And its never been plainly stated what percentage the Manager contributes versus the 1st base coach. But the intent when they were created was to allow team with poor managers to "cover gaps", so my assumption has been that the bigger a Manager weakness, the more impact that a coach has; meaning the percentage might not be fixed. End of the day, the only trade-off that should really be considered is if you are in development or win-now mode. In win-now, prioritize game performance. In development, prioritize development skills. BTW, I'm not a big fan of the whole Manager/Coach system. So I'm not trying to defend it. But I feel the game would be ruined if too much of the inner workings of the engine are revealed. There would be nothing left to discover for ourselves. Updated Tuesday, March 26 2024 @ 8:55:26 pm PDT

#93902	03/26/2024 9:06:31 pm	Oct 30th, 2063
Annie Oakley Joined: 10/14/2023 Posts: 60 Independence Cavaliers III.2	Thanks, the gap-filling does mirror what they believe is the case in Hardwood so it could be a good call. I completely agree on the 'not everything being known front' but think it should only apply to things we can test or consider from the available data. Cheers