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JJNZ
Joined: 12/09/2014
Posts: 1580

Yakima Monster
III.3

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I will add that Boulder has skewed your stats slightly sorry - we only threw Valle in the closer role to see how he'd go to finish last season - we haven't run a genuine closer to ages.

But to make it not a complete inaccuracy, the job is his for now until he fails.....
PrivateSnowflake
Joined: 01/06/2015
Posts: 1167

Bloomington Thunder
Legends

Broken Bat Baseball
I'm one that doesn't use a closer. Probably an outdated way of thinking with RD settings now, but just give me 2 SET that throw slop and we'll figure out how to get the last few outs if we get there. Just something I'm comfortable with.
Frankebasta
Joined: 09/15/2013
Posts: 884

Kodiak Mules
III.3

Broken Bat Baseball

when a team did not have a closer they usually had a strong LHS, RHS and a 2 setup pitchers. Essentially having those 4 act as one closer



that's exactly what the Mules do, and it works to keep salary down as well by spreading Saves among 4 or 5 players.

Last time I used a Closer, we lost him by lack of funds :(
Jerbeetwo
Joined: 06/30/2019
Posts: 327

Tyler Goldendoodles
IV.3

Broken Bat Baseball
The Goldendoodles haven’t named a closer yet. Need to see what waivers brings first. We really need a couple of starters with stamina then hopefully one of last years low stamina starters moves into the long term closer role.
Longviewess
Joined: 09/23/2018
Posts: 111

Frederick Keys
III.3

Broken Bat Baseball
I've used exactly two closers over the past 15 seasons. One lasted 10.5 seasons and is in my HOF, http://brokenbat.org/player/171437.

The other is my current closer, http://brokenbat.org/player/261610, who's been in that role for the last 4.5 seasons and will likely retain that role for another 6-7 seasons.

The one thing both of them have in common is that they completely failed as starters who performed much better in a single inning situation. Very similar to real MLB situations in fact.

In fact, I've had a lot of success transforming failed starters into successful MR/SU/Closers. In fact, my primary MR last season had more IP than all but one starter and got 7 Cy Young votes.
Ced
Joined: 11/07/2014
Posts: 626

Denver Broncos
IV.4

Broken Bat Baseball
https://brokenbat.org/player/249244

Check out this guy's 2052 season.
Rock777
Joined: 09/21/2014
Posts: 9600

Haverhill Halflings
III.1

Broken Bat Baseball
Wow...! If he could do that every season, I'd have a 20M contract waiting for him, LOL.

Not too surprising 2053 was his highest contract year.






Updated Wednesday, November 22 2023 @ 11:09:16 am PST
Ken_Kennilworth
Joined: 11/26/2019
Posts: 400

Charleston Hawks
II.1

Broken Bat Baseball
interesting stats...got me wondering, what percent of times should a typical closer preserve a win if he enters the game with a 1 run lead in the top of the ninth inning.

the goal is to evaluate closer's performance.

this was a job for super search engine!!! here's what i found:

below is a path to a win expectancy calculator, which projects about 70% of the time no runs will score...and 7 out of 8 times (86%) the home team will win (i e, home teams comes to bat after losing the lead and rescues the win about 15% of the instances). 

from this figures it seems one can expect 2 saves for every 1 blown save when leading by 1 run with 1 inning left (the classic closer situation)

https://gregstoll.com/~gregstoll/baseball/stats.html#V.1.9.0.1.0.0


Updated Wednesday, November 22 2023 @ 1:55:44 pm PST
Ced
Joined: 11/07/2014
Posts: 626

Denver Broncos
IV.4

Broken Bat Baseball

Wow...! If he could do that every season, I'd have a 20M contract waiting for him, LOL.



And how's he not in top 5 of Cy Young votes and no All-Star and no All-League that season, he might be affordable.
Brewnoe
Joined: 03/25/2014
Posts: 818

Fall River Naughty Dawgs
IV.5

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Wow...! If he could do that every season, I'd have a 20M contract waiting for him, LOL.



Crazy ERA that year, but for even 6M, I'd want at least c. 2052-2057 "Saint" Diego Nava
In those years, he got
- 2 Cup rings
- 2 all-league spots
- 2 all star nods

Actually, for a closer, make that 54/55.
0.146 BAA in Legends over 2 years
















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