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#88068	05/20/2022 10:06:42 am	Mar 14th, 2055	Ignore
Seca Joined: 05/05/2014 Posts: 5199 Waterloo Dinosaurs Legends	32? McCarty was just warmed up. Dinos have different OPS targets for different positions. Tough with older players. Hard to tell if they are just having an bad season or if that is their new reality. Having a ready replacement will certainly accelerate the timetable. Not terribly competitive, but Dinos keep an eye on lifetime stats and achievements. We often let a guy hang on a bit longer if it will allow him to climb the team leaderboard in a noteworthy way.
#88071	05/20/2022 12:58:11 pm	Mar 14th, 2055	Ignore
NotGood88 Joined: 08/28/2020 Posts: 510 Prattville Black Cats II.2	Yeah it sorta depends. For fully/mostly developed players, I want at least a .700 OPS, unless you’re at C or SS, in which case it’s OM if you’re good at D. The thing about a .700 OPS, though, is that you need to either be able to hit for power or run really fast, otherwise that player’s really mid.
#88073	05/20/2022 2:41:50 pm	Mar 15th, 2055	Ignore
Rock777 Joined: 09/21/2014 Posts: 9597 Haverhill Halflings III.1	For me .700 is a good minimum target. But if my current 2B is hitting .650, I'm certainly not getting rid of the guy in AAA hitting .680. For OF I really want to see at least .750. 1B and DH should be north of .800. Really its just the best you can get your hands on for each position. Sometimes that's .650... just hope you don't have too many of those guys.
#88074	05/20/2022 3:10:43 pm	Mar 15th, 2055	Ignore
electriceel883 Joined: 05/26/2021 Posts: 1505 Irvine Infernos III.3	I like a high OPS just like the next person, but I have found it overvalues slugging. i.e. I consider Hodsons 2054 season .781 OPS (.304/7/64;.348 OBP; 59/76 SB) to be more valuable than Arriaga's .835 (.266/13/71;.365 OBP). One caveat is Hodson has 200 more AB. But Arriaga cant hit LHP too well and Hodson hits both. Overall my team had a 2054 OPS of .766 which I am very happy with.
#88076	05/20/2022 3:33:14 pm	Mar 15th, 2055	Ignore
Kittens-B-Us Joined: 01/17/2022 Posts: 42 Inactive	I think airriana with his high hit high pd (enough to put him 100 obp over his ba) along with pow gives you the perfect lead off hitter. Hodson high bat and high bc is a pure hitter and maybe a low power clean up hitter. I don't think one is better than the other in the right role they are both good ballplayers. Ariana is over 2. In power where Hodson is avg at 1.5.
#88077	05/20/2022 3:36:50 pm	Mar 15th, 2055	Ignore
Kittens-B-Us Joined: 01/17/2022 Posts: 42 Inactive	Math error sorry. Arriaga is ISO 2.04 Hodson is Iso 1.3. Your ballpark punishes power hitters so makes it harder on Arriaga Updated Friday, May 20 2022 @ 4:01:24 pm PDT Updated Friday, May 20 2022 @ 4:06:01 pm PDT
#88078	05/20/2022 4:10:53 pm	Mar 15th, 2055	Ignore
electriceel883 Joined: 05/26/2021 Posts: 1505 Irvine Infernos III.3	Possibly the guy with the highest OBP should be hitting lead-off, but I like stolen bases from the leadoff position. Arriaga is only 62% on that. I need at least 70% and preferably 75%. I have 3 other guys within 2 points of Arriaga's .365 OBP, but they dont have any speed either. Not sure there is any park configuration that doesnt punish/reward home team and opponents equally. Perhaps if I had a team on one-sided right-handed power hitters and made a short left-field wall (since clearly most teams load up on lefties because most pitchers are right-handed) I could do something...Arriaga with his 13 POW and .9 FB has some power of course but its not dramatic.
#88079	05/20/2022 4:21:17 pm	Mar 15th, 2055	Ignore
Kittens-B-Us Joined: 01/17/2022 Posts: 42 Inactive	ISO is SLG-AVG. 835 OPS - 365 OBP = 470 SLG 470-266 =204 His # tell a diff story than 13 pow shows.idk maybe his speed gives him doubles or triples.
#88080	05/20/2022 4:38:13 pm	Mar 16th, 2055	Ignore
Kittens-B-Us Joined: 01/17/2022 Posts: 42 Inactive	I think I took the discussion of OPS off track. My apologies.
#88086	05/20/2022 7:15:17 pm	Mar 16th, 2055	Ignore
timothy Joined: 03/18/2020 Posts: 202 West Fargo Turtles II.1	I think it's generally accepted that it does overvalue slugging. Bill James suggested multiplying SLG times OBP instead of adding them. In that formulation, someone with .350 OBP and .450 SLG multiplies out to .158. Someone with .300 OBP and .500 SLG multiplies out to .150, so the first player is considered more valuable. In Moneyball, I think Paul DePodesta expresses the belief that OBP is even more relatively valuable than that.

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