Broken Bat - Discussion Forum: Future DH?

Post ID	Date & Time	Game Date	Function

#28498	12/31/2015 5:27:51 pm
Jason2327 Joined: 09/02/2014 Posts: 719 Abilene Patriots III.2	http://brokenbat.org/tools/a/p/110089 so,looking for opinions as to if he is a good looking future DH.

#28504	12/31/2015 6:02:26 pm
Seca Joined: 05/05/2014 Posts: 5199 Waterloo Dinosaurs Legends	Had him on my watch list. My concern was the fielding scouting. Like my DHs with hands of stone. Think he will be a nice player.

#28505	12/31/2015 6:36:34 pm
Rock777 Joined: 09/21/2014 Posts: 9597 Haverhill Halflings III.1	His Bat Control might cap out a little sooner than you would like, but he should be a good player. I'd train him up at 1B while he is in the minors. I always like to have my DH able to slot in for injuries, and this guy will actually make a really good defensive 1B (who can also hit).

#28508	12/31/2015 6:44:00 pm
Jason2327 Joined: 09/02/2014 Posts: 719 Abilene Patriots III.2	that's what I have him training as.

#28512	12/31/2015 7:09:46 pm
Rock777 Joined: 09/21/2014 Posts: 9597 Haverhill Halflings III.1	There are different (and equally good) philosophies on DH. Judging from Seca's post, Seca likes to find a slugger with most of his SI in batting ratings to specialize at DH and never step on the field. I take the opposite approach, which is to just use my best extraneous batter as DH. The trade-off being Seca will likely have the better natural DH, while I will have more flexibility within my squad. But Seca also prioritizes defense more than me, so he needs the batting specialist more than me. I'll have more natural batters who really shouldn't be playing in the field, so I can more easily just slot a guy in from the bench. The philosophies all intertwine and having a good "set" of complimentary philosophies will help you to be successful. That's one of the great things with this game. There are lots of different ways to win.

#28661	01/07/2016 7:31:35 am
Slug5373 Joined: 12/23/2014 Posts: 376 Inactive	My strategy is to find the best batter that cannot field a lick and stick him in the DH slot. They are usually the undervalued 12 POT players. For example, my current DH who I will drop this off-season, was a 12 POT free agent when I found him about three or four seasons ago. I tried to claim this guy as my DH of the future, but I was quite disappointed when I didn't get him. I take more Rock's approach where I find the best hitters I can and try to find a place for them. Updated Thursday, January 7 2016 @ 7:32:07 am PST

#28663	01/07/2016 9:27:31 am
Seca Joined: 05/05/2014 Posts: 5199 Waterloo Dinosaurs Legends	Rock777's description of my philosophy is spot on. I would like to have more generally useful players, but it is a question of bar power. The smaller your bars (relative to your opponents) the greater the need to specialize. In the past Dinos have brought in veterans to fill the DH role. Normally there is decent supply of good offensive oldsters (that are often defensively challenged). The advantage to this is that you can fix a particular problem with your line-up. Last season I had some good middle of the order guys, but no real table setter. Cordero perfectly filled the role. Another advantage is that if the oldster is bad, you cut him loose and try someone else. For the first time this season Dinos are trying to develop our own DH. I'm not liking it. I've lost the flexibility to address a specific line-up weakness. I have no choice but to endure a horrible season (Blanco is struggling to stay over .200). And I'm filled with trepidation for next season - the veterans I will be losing mean I simply can't have another no production "growth" season from the DH spot. Add in the opportunity cost of keeping a DH prospect in the minors, and I'm really not sold on the in-house approach. I think I only have 1 DH prospect in the minors ATM, and he is constantly skating on thin ice.

#28664	01/07/2016 10:01:43 am
Crazy Li Joined: 01/25/2015 Posts: 879 Inactive	Yeah I don't raise players as DH. I intend for every minor leaguer to play at least one position at an acceptable rate... he has to project to be able to handle something. You never know when there will be an offensive hole at a position that you need to fill and if all you have is a "DH-only" type to call up... that doesn't quite work. For me DH tends to just be an extra stick. I may intend for so-and-so to be X position but maybe his fielding hasn't gotten to where his report claims and I don't feel confident in his abilities so I DH him for the time being. Or maybe he's an old player that was never trained for the right position by his former manager and thus can't competently play anything... good spot for a DH. My current DH is a listed 3B without the arm to play the position so he has to either hit or he doesn't play. Despite his seemingly unimpressive makeup, he hasn't hit poorly at all so far. He also leads the team in MVPs this season.

#28754	01/09/2016 11:16:00 am
Mig2015 Joined: 06/17/2015 Posts: 162 Inactive	@Slug I am actually the one who got Gillespi . Normally, I would agree with everyone and I would just stick someone who is not really suited for their listed position in the DH role. For example, if I saw a good hitter who is around 28 or 29 years old in waivers and I got him, there is a good chance his position doesn't match his abilities, like this guy I got last year. If he had a bit more ability with the glove, I might have trained him at 2B or OF, but his fielding and arm is just too low for there to be any point, so I just stuck him at DH. BTW, he is having a tremendous season . That all said, I came across Gillespi in the waiver wire and went "Woah!" With only 12 POT, I knew he would slip almost completely under the radar. He has an almost perfect DH build: zero defensive ability, a little bit of speed, excellent hitting and power, and SI points left over for bat control and plate discipline (Please let those points go to PD). He was so perfect as a DH that I could not resist putting in a claim. He has plenty of time to develop too, so I'm not too worried about him not reaching his potential. My only concern is that his plate discipline will not get to 11 or 12, which is the minimum I typically look for. However, if he has 19 hitting and 19 power, I think I will survive.

#28762	01/09/2016 2:22:15 pm
Rock777 Joined: 09/21/2014 Posts: 9597 Haverhill Halflings III.1	Actually Gillespi doesn't have a negative fielding rating... So he is going to make a very good 1B. I'd train him up that way while he is in the minors.