Broken Bat - Discussion Forum: Stonewall?

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#22364	08/14/2015 6:21:52 pm
MukilteoMike Joined: 08/09/2014 Posts: 3294 Inactive	There's the possibility he has reached his skill ceiling. Many players never reach their projected potential. He's not extremely far from it, so you might have to live with a 90% pitcher.

#22365	08/14/2015 6:24:07 pm
Rock777 Joined: 09/21/2014 Posts: 9600 Haverhill Halflings III.1	Bummer. But not as much of a bummer as Robertson hitting his ceiling at 114 Nishimura is much more expendable.

#22408	08/15/2015 10:22:52 am
buffmckagan Joined: 12/22/2013 Posts: 651 Scranton Bears Legends	He only has a 12 pot, so it is somewhat reasonable he could peak at low 90's. Still stinks though!

#22414	08/15/2015 11:47:16 am
Rock777 Joined: 09/21/2014 Posts: 9600 Haverhill Halflings III.1	Well 12 POT = 95 - 103, so no he did not reach 12 POT.

#22422	08/15/2015 1:42:53 pm
cqk328 Joined: 07/28/2014 Posts: 289 Unalaska Alaskans VI.20	@Rock777 You do have to remember, back when Steve revealed the potential values that he gave a reason that they were originally question marks. It was because they had uncertainty built into their value, just like scouts would not give 100% accurate reports of a player's abilities. I'm not saying that he won't grow more or that he will be one of those rare players to have a drop in potential. I mean, he doesn't have the "won't improve much more" message yet, so he probably still has a little room to grow. Kind of weird that he didn't increase at all this year, though.

#22424	08/15/2015 2:01:45 pm
Rock777 Joined: 09/21/2014 Posts: 9600 Haverhill Halflings III.1	I've never seen a player that far off though. They don't flip to 12 until 96 SI. So he is 5 SI away from the low end of 12 POT. Just the first time I've ever seen a players growth stop that far away from the mark. Especially given he wasn't promoted early and is still relatively young. Updated Saturday, August 15 2015 @ 2:02:04 pm PDT

#22429	08/15/2015 3:08:30 pm
Yuri84 Joined: 10/14/2014 Posts: 639 Apple Valley Raccoons IV.4	It's still possible that he'll gain more SI in the future. I have a pitcher who haven't gained a single skill point for four seasons then suddenly gained 3, and another one who gained 2 skill points after being stuck for two seasons. Updated Saturday, August 15 2015 @ 3:08:42 pm PDT

#22435	08/15/2015 5:18:21 pm
Rock777 Joined: 09/21/2014 Posts: 9600 Haverhill Halflings III.1	That seems more likely. Its just kind of weird. I guess there is a bit of RND going on behind the scenes that can trip some players up dev wise.

#22450	08/16/2015 12:11:45 pm
Frankebasta Joined: 09/15/2013 Posts: 884 Kodiak Mules III.3	Well, development in the majors is gained in part by playing time, on part by service time. He's still got One Season of ML experience only. Should get some more SI that way. Are you sure he was ML ready, didn't skip any AAA training? Also, when considering training thru ML playing time, keep in mind you gotta reckon Spring Training. As for Innings Pitched that could be a major source of those.

#22453	08/16/2015 12:25:14 pm
Rock777 Joined: 09/21/2014 Posts: 9600 Haverhill Halflings III.1	No, he was ready for the majors. If I include spring training he has gotten 179 innings pitched this year. And 0 SI gained. And he has two full years of major league service at this point. Not 1... He pitched 117 inning last year as a LR, and he pitched 17 inning the year before as a spring call up.