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Post ID	Date & Time	Game Date	Function

#11867	11/15/2014 9:16:53 am
the gizmo Joined: 02/07/2013 Posts: 574 Inactive	the Gulls I like the random match ups in the knockout rounds Updated Saturday, November 15 2014 @ 10:06:31 am PST

#11886	11/15/2014 2:09:15 pm
Holmes Joined: 11/07/2013 Posts: 1175 Inactive	In the European soccer Champions League (that is actually a cup with a group phase and a complex qualification system linked with the 2nd tier UEFA Cup ahead of that), the eight groups are filled in a seeding mechanism that makes sure there is exactly one of the eight highest rated teams and not more than one team per country in each group. Out of the 32 teams in the groups, 16 advance to the knockout phase, which is then completely random. The rules are a mess, and every change to them is a haggle about who sees an opportunity to make money from something, which invariably makes the rules weirder. I don't think we want anything like this. The national cup in Germany is purely knockout with random couplings, so it can happen that the top two Bundesliga teams face off in the first round while a team advanced to the finals without having faced an opponent above second league. The only manipulation is that teams from the lower leagues always get home field advantage, which is always a big show when Bayern München has to play in some small town where the stadium can admit less than 10000, most of them standing. Much more fun, if you ask me. I was eliminated yesterday by a League IV team you all know, although some may think (like I did) they are just a dummy while you're not logged in: The Cincinnati Titans actually exist, very much to my dismay...

#11923	11/16/2014 1:47:58 pm
Luizmussa Joined: 01/23/2014 Posts: 120 Inactive	UEFA Champions League actually seeds the 1st place teams against 2nd place teams in its first knockout round. And no teams from the same country may face each other. After that, then, it is completely random.

#11928	11/17/2014 3:15:56 am
Mig2012 Joined: 09/26/2012 Posts: 547 Inactive	We should have something like this in the Cup. Finishing top of the group table should mean something, and at least the group winners should be seeded for the next round draw. Only after that should the draw be completely random.

#11943	11/17/2014 5:10:30 pm
the gizmo Joined: 02/07/2013 Posts: 574 Inactive	The Gulls just eliminated the Durham Bulls from Cup play and will again face the proverbial powerhouse Thunder Bay a Raiders in the next knockout round for the second season in a row. Thunder Bay was eliminated in the 2nd round last season by the Gulls, who are looking to improve on their quarter final finish in the 2020 Cup run,

#12540	12/08/2014 3:40:59 pm
Seca Joined: 05/05/2014 Posts: 5198 Waterloo Dinosaurs Legends	Congratulations to Thunder Bay Red Raiders, and to all who met or exceeded their expectations in the cup this season. Looking forward to our next chance. Updated Monday, December 8 2014 @ 3:42:08 pm PST

#12541	12/08/2014 4:42:16 pm
newtman Joined: 11/02/2013 Posts: 3343 Inactive	... and those who's teams underperformed? coughRaleighcough Looking forward to hopefully making the KO stages again in 2021. This season was nothing short of embarrassing, though someone has to go out in the group stage... it's all about the matchups and random number generation in the short series that are the cup.

#12543	12/08/2014 7:07:06 pm
MrTwoPlums Joined: 04/14/2012 Posts: 213 Inactive	Thanks Seca. I've been waiting a long time to see purple in my trophy case.

#12544	12/08/2014 9:20:31 pm
newtman Joined: 11/02/2013 Posts: 3343 Inactive	... and congrats to Chris Lamb for getting that first "1" in the cup win line. That looks like a storied career that will probably never be matched.

#12634	12/13/2014 7:03:35 pm
Dcmrulz Joined: 02/14/2013 Posts: 588 Inactive	Great cup this season. Managed to make it to the final four before losing in a tough 3 games to Thunder Bay.