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afreespirit
Joined: 09/17/2011
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He has an excellent batting practice fastball.
Geech
Joined: 01/12/2014
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They definitely can be effective. See, for example, Wilkerson who has had high-level success with multiple teams. If you judge him purely by his visible skills, you would never guess it.

If Isales was my player, I would be concerned whether he has already topped out in SI. Are his skills too low to really translate to the majors? He might have a bit more SI in him, but probably not a lot. Otherwise, a lot of his other signs look good. His minor league numbers are good, and he didn't have a history of giving up lots of minor league HR, which has been one of his big problems in the majors.

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hurstdm
Joined: 01/18/2017
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Broken Bat doesn't seem to model it, but Control oughtta strike out as many as Velocity.
timothy
Joined: 03/18/2020
Posts: 202

West Fargo Turtles
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Has four pitches and I'd worry that two of those, the curve and slider, are affected by the 10 COS and the 12 MOV.
Brewnoe
Joined: 03/25/2014
Posts: 814

Fall River Naughty Dawgs
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That might be a bit too much "Arm + Range" for 12pot pitcher with no other scouting.

When I'm forced into taking a 12,
I usually go for a Brian Neri type
g10rsh
Joined: 02/05/2016
Posts: 170

Champaign Suzumebachi
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I love high control pitchers. This guy hasnt performed great in the majors, but hes been developing so far. Taking a look at the minors and amateur stats Id say he has the chance to be a star for your team. Id give them at least one more full season before making any big changes
afreespirit
Joined: 09/17/2011
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Control in BB just means throwing strikes. Getting hitters out is what velocity, CoS and movement (plus a team's aggregate range) are for.

Isales - 10/10/12/19 - 68.9% K, .309 BAA, 1.643 WHIP.

Espinoza - 17/20/16/19 - 67.7% K, .211 BAA, 1.079 WHIP.
Tpereira58
Joined: 03/09/2019
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Does control decide whether or not a pitch is thrown in or out of the strike zone followed by 1 of the other attributes used to calculate whether it beats the batter or a combination of the other attributes?

Updated Sunday, March 28 2021 @ 2:54:35 am PDT
Rock777
Joined: 09/21/2014
Posts: 9571

Haverhill Halflings
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I imagine it works something like that. I often see high Velocity + high Control pitchers with low CoS and Movement throwing HR derbies. Velocity is great for Ks, but when its their only tool and they have high control, every pitch is a meatball. Movement guys seem to really need the Control to keep the walks down. In general I think Control helps all pitchers in combination with other pitches. But if they only have Control, they are just throwing batting practice.

You generally want your pitchers to have high Control plus a couple other tools. The only possible exception is guys whose primary tool is Velocity. GB/FB is probably also a factor in that case. Just be aware that high GB/FB is good for keeping the ball in the park, but doesn't help a lot versus extra base hits in large parks.

In general I think its most important to have Control for a Movement specialist and Velocity for a CoS specialist. A Velocity specialist needs Movement, but can also benefit from CoS (and maybe Control is less helpful). A Control specialist needs other tools to actually get players out, otherwise they are just pitching batting practice.


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Ken_Kennilworth
Joined: 11/26/2019
Posts: 399

Charleston Hawks
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no study or data to back this up, but i believe control compliments stamina---poor control pitchers reach fatigue/pitch limit in fewer innings, good control pitchers go more innings before hitting their limit


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