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| #76980 | 08/29/2020 3:51:27 pm | Jan 15th, 2047 | |
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Rock777 Joined: 09/21/2014 Posts: 9596 Haverhill Halflings III.1 
| Here is another decent article on Bat Control. Again, in real life Bat Control is all about Placement. But if that is what it means in BB, whats all that about avoiding strikeouts and making Contact...? Yes Bunting is 100% about Placement and 0% about Contact. So that supports the theory. But avoiding Strikeouts is 100% about Contact and 0% about Placement... Why are those two things in the same definition? Its mind boggling... |
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| #76982 | 08/29/2020 4:11:43 pm | Jan 15th, 2047 | |
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jamanys Joined: 09/18/2018 Posts: 44 Inactive 
| for me hitting is the ability to touch (make contact) the ball and bat control it's how good you will hit it. but yes isn't very clear | ||
| #76984 | 08/29/2020 4:19:38 pm | Jan 15th, 2047 | |
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Rock777 Joined: 09/21/2014 Posts: 9596 Haverhill Halflings III.1
| That my belief as well, but then why does the definition say: ability to make contact with the baseball, especially important for avoiding strike outs That is completely contrary. |
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| #77017 | 08/31/2020 2:00:34 pm | Jan 15th, 2047 | |
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hardhat Joined: 05/26/2013 Posts: 200 Oceanview Woods Grizzlies Legends 
| Bat control so highly correlated with strikeouts in this game, that I'm convinced that BC = contact and Hitting = ball placement. I've ignored the game manual definitions because they aren't much help. As you say, they actually muddle things further. I've posted my theory before, but it's this: Bat control = making contact. |
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| #77024 | 08/31/2020 3:27:58 pm | Jan 15th, 2047 | |
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Rock777 Joined: 09/21/2014 Posts: 9596 Haverhill Halflings III.1
| I think you might be right, but its so counter intuitive. Seems like the real life effects are swapped. It also doesn't explain why Bat Control would have anything to do with Bunting then... Bunting is all about Controlling where the ball goes, not making Contact. Anyone can make Contact with a bunt... I'm still utterly confused. If Hitting = BC and BC = Hitting, then I might start putting less priority on BC. Contact is nice, but Placement is king. Where Contact goes versus Eye is a little more up in the air... |
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| #77052 | 09/01/2020 5:35:33 pm | Jan 21st, 2047 | |
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Geech Joined: 01/12/2014 Posts: 545 San Luis Obispo Turtles IV.8 
| I think hardhat has the right idea, and honestly his explanation seems pretty consistent with the way help page is written. I think trying to map bat control and contact directly onto existing real world philosophies about the actual game of baseball may be barking up the wrong tree. | ||
| #77053 | 09/01/2020 5:57:00 pm | Jan 21st, 2047 | |
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Rock777 Joined: 09/21/2014 Posts: 9596 Haverhill Halflings III.1
| Hardhat may well be right, but his explanation is definitely not consistent with the way help page is written. The help page says that Bat Control is important for Bunting. Bunting is all about control, not contact. The help page also says that Hitting is the ability to hit the ball and put it in play. Which is talking about contact, not control. The definitions in the manual are contradictory, so its not really possible for any explanation to jive with the manual. Also, hitting is more about physics than philosophy  The factors of control and contact are the physical components of hitting, not some thing philosophical.Contact, Control, and Eye (decision making) are well known factors. You would expect those to map to Hitting, BC, and PD. Or at the very least BC, Hitting, and PD. I have no clue what they map to in the game. Seems like none of the above. Updated Tuesday, September 1 2020 @ 6:29:15 pm PDT |
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| #77055 | 09/01/2020 7:28:42 pm | Jan 22nd, 2047 | |
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Geech Joined: 01/12/2014 Posts: 545 San Luis Obispo Turtles IV.8
| Hardhat's explanation may not obviously square with bunting, but it 100% is consistent with an ability to make contact and avoid strikeouts. When I read hardhat's theory, it basically sounds like a minor expansion and extrapolation of that bit from the manual. I agree that calling out bunting is less obviously consistent. |
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| #77059 | 09/01/2020 10:15:13 pm | Jan 22nd, 2047 | |
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Rock777 Joined: 09/21/2014 Posts: 9596 Haverhill Halflings III.1
| That is why I said the definitions in the manual are contradictory. The definitions in the manual basically say: Hitting = Contact Bat Control = Contact + Bunting So its kind of impossible for someone to give an explanation without at least one thing squares with the manual. Its also impossible to square with those definitions for this same reason. You'll notice hardhat uses the words "ball is in play" in his definition for Bat Control. The manual defines Hitting with those words. Basically any explanation we come up with will be 100% consistent with part of the manual definition Updated Tuesday, September 1 2020 @ 10:16:49 pm PDT |
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| #77190 | 09/06/2020 12:34:34 pm | Mar 4th, 2047 | |
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Rock777 Joined: 09/21/2014 Posts: 9596 Haverhill Halflings III.1
| Here is a nice example of a player using Bat Control (also known as Hitting in BB) to bunt a double. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZth29D337A and another: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-CnETAoaLJ4 Even more impressive with Arcia. Tricks the 1B with a bunt/hit. Definitely good bat control. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fjYIjkccJDM I used to love hitting against the shift. Especially in highschool ball. Teams always overreacted based on very little information. You pull the ball a couple time in the first at bat, and everyone shifts for your second at bat, which give you a ton of space to hit an easy double  I never tried doing it with a bunt though. That just genius.Updated Sunday, September 6 2020 @ 12:46:21 pm PDT |
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