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#20677	07/03/2015 10:46:40 pm
Float2Kegs Joined: 05/23/2015 Posts: 10 Inactive	I looked, rather lazily, for a bit to see if this has been mentioned... but... Being a stats lover, I've been noticing that my relief pitchers usually get the win. The last game, I beat Melbourne 1-0 in a Cup game... Starting pitcher pitched 6.3 innings. Relief pitcher pitched 2.66 innings. The relief pitcher got the win in the boxscore and stats... Happens routinely. I don't get it... I just really don't understand... Could someone please explain that to me?

#20678	07/04/2015 12:49:22 am
Endrju Joined: 05/28/2015 Posts: 577 Inactive	Win is assigned to the pitcher that is on the mound when the winning team takes the lead and doesn't lose it until the end. You took 1-0 lead in 9th inning, therefore your reliever picked up a win. I recommend you check the wiki

#20683	07/04/2015 7:23:21 am
Float2Kegs Joined: 05/23/2015 Posts: 10 Inactive	Ah. Thank you. That actually makes sense. I actually wasn't aware there was a wiki Thank you for that as well, haha

#20684	07/04/2015 7:35:43 am
Rock777 Joined: 09/21/2014 Posts: 9592 Haverhill Halflings III.1	This is exactly why most stat oriented folks don't pay a lot of attention to the win/loss record. It isn't a very good indicator for performance. My preference has always been to focus on the H/IP ratio, K/BB ratio, and HR allowed. But now we have FIP which is supposed to do a lot of the work for us. Plus Steve added GB/FB which you can pair up with HR allowed for some valuable insights as well.

#20689	07/04/2015 2:56:50 pm
Endrju Joined: 05/28/2015 Posts: 577 Inactive	Yeah win/loss isn't really helpful statwise, as it doesn't necessarily reflect the pitcher's performance. They need to rely on offence to get the wins, or they can pitch 9 innings in a 1-0 loss. For me 2 most important stats are quality starts and WHIP. I haven't yet learned to read FIP correctly Updated Saturday, July 4 2015 @ 2:57:16 pm PDT

#20695	07/04/2015 8:27:06 pm
Brewnoe Joined: 03/25/2014 Posts: 816 Fall River Naughty Dawgs IV.5	Win is assigned to the pitcher that is on the mound when the winning team takes the lead and doesn't lose it until the end. With the caveat that the starter needs to finish the 5th inning to be eligible for the win. FIP is easy to read ... in theory, it's what the pitchers ERA "should be" without luck/fielding.

#20714	07/05/2015 9:26:19 am
admin Joined: 01/27/2010 Posts: 4985 Administrator	Rock777 - just a note...we're still tweaking the new statistics (GB/FB & strikes) so don't overhaul you're entire pitching corps because of it yet. We'll probably zero out all the 2023 values after the season so that the only the most accurate values are kept going forward. Steve

#20717	07/05/2015 10:04:10 am
Rock777 Joined: 09/21/2014 Posts: 9592 Haverhill Halflings III.1	Good to know.