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Rock777
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Not for me. RNG is critical for SS, I never go as low as 15. I have a backup C/SS right now with 16 Range, but my starter has 17 RNG and my 24 year old rookie has 19 RNG. I have a POT 14 SS in the minors with 18 RNG. I would never drop as low as 15 Range for SS. Arm, Fielding, and Range don't have equal value for each position. Its not a good idea to treat them as equals.
MukilteoMike
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Of course they're not equal, but they're all important at short. I'm playing a 12-16-14 guy there now. With hitting being equal, I'd rather have 15-15-15. You can only play what you can get. An even better illustration of that is that I played a guy there last season for 33 games with 12-14-13. We're limited by dumb luck in who we get to play. As I said over in the Legends thread, that's why I think Novi's Lee from last year's draft may be the best draft pick ever. Shortstops are easily the most difficult position to find and he got an immediate All Star. Meanwhile, many of us are struggling to find merely a serviceable short.

Updated Monday, August 12 2019 @ 10:41:56 am PDT
Rock777
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I don't disagree they are hard to find. But SS is the one position I prioritize defense over offense. I would consider 12-14-13 to be a very poor shortstop (ignoring any actuals over scouting inaccuracies).

I'm not going to shoe horn a player into SS just because he is a POT 15. And to me 15-15-15 is unacceptable at SS.
BUDude
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Part of the fun of baseball is having to make decisions like that. Obviously, I want my SS to be the best defensive player on the team, but I'm nowhere near as picky as Rock is. But maybe that's why I've never achieved that level of success either.
Holmes
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Hurstdm, as I already wrote in our league thread, I had one player drop from 15 to 14 and five players drop from 13 to 12. That turns at least two of them into non-prospects...
Brewnoe
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I don't disagree they are hard to find. But SS is the one position I prioritize defense over offense. I would consider 12-14-13 to be a very poor shortstop (ignoring any actuals over scouting inaccuracies).

I'm not going to shoe horn a player into SS just because he is a POT 15. And to me 15-15-15 is unacceptable at SS.



There was (an early) season or 2 that i would have taken 15-15-15 in a sec ... see Chad

Glad you missed (or weren't looking for) "Old Weird" Harold Nielson (amazing-16-16) ... also glad i might not need to play his 12 pot butt for long if a certain (outstanding-17-13) guy can learn.

... Have a strategy, but be flexible

Speaking of pure SS
... can you imagine inheriting a team with someone like Carlos Corona ?? ... hope someone teaches him well
Jwrose
Joined: 07/07/2016
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My main SS has an 11 range, which is 1pt above average guys, and had a fld% of .978 at SS in 105 games. Combined with his hitting I'll take that everyday.
Rock777
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Range has nothing to do with fielding. Range impacts how many balls your entire team gets to. Less team range means more balls find gaps. And the SS Range is weighted heavier than other positions. Higher Range at SS means less balls dropping into play in the OF.
Jwrose
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I know that but I'll take the minus for the pluses.
ImASurvivor
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http://brokenbat.org/player/231811

This guy looks for a candidate to have a pot bump, only 18 and already 80+SI but 12 POT and his scouting report claims to predict his stats will improve above the 103 threshold for 12 pots.


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